Thread: Big old Battleship

Originally Posted by clean32

1200s

Even at 1200 it's 500 years or so older.

Originally Posted by juddy

Other than some of the ships that were either sunk or damaged in the Falklands war, ie HMS Sheffield, hit by a exocet Missile, which did not explode, but the missiles own fuel , set the ship on fire. I think a number of other ships were hit too, many of the bombs failing to explode on the lower decks.

Noting that the Sheffield was not actually sunk as it was scuttled as a safety measure due to approaching bad weather.

I was in the UK the following year doing Navy warfare training and we had the navigators from a number of the Falklands ships including Sheffield. He was in his cabin at the time of the hit and he said it just sounded like heavy book dropping on the floor. We also had a member who was on another ship (name escapes me now) that took an exocet into its helo hangar - again like Sheffield the missile was fired too close to arm so did not explode - the resulting fire was bad enough.

This whole operation had a real chance of being a disaster for the Brits but their tactics paid off and often forced the Argentineans to fire weapons out side their arming envelops. If the Argenrineans had used their conventional submarines to full effect the outcome may have been different - that is what the Brits were really worried about.

Back then and maybe even now - a nuclear sub and most surface ships are no match for a quiet diesel submarine running on batteries.

Garry

Originally Posted by martinozcmax

Even at 1200 it's 500 years or so older.

not disputing the fact

I have been lucky enough to see both the victory and the Cutty shark, and of course the victory’s main sail, quite interesting the different shot they used, most interesting was the Chain they fired to take out rigging, like stumpy numchucks.
The first aid kits kept in the capstan, 1 lump of salt and a rag. Oh and the major technological advance the victory had, flintlocks on the canon, less delay from fusing.

But all I can say is thank God I wasn’t born back then, im way to tall.

Originally Posted by garrycol

Back then and maybe even now - a nuclear sub and most surface ships are no match for a quiet diesel submarine running on batteries.

Garry

True today, the Nuclear attack subs are all a bit to big, therefore they give off a rather large magnetic disturbance ( layman’s terms) and because of that are relatively easier to detect. Size limits maneuverability and speed. More Grunt can compensate for this but more grunt = more sound etc

Any way Australia’s defense is based around subs, they are our first defense.

Originally Posted by juddy

Other than some of the ships that were either sunk or damaged in the Falklands war, ie HMS Sheffield, hit by a exocet Missile, which did not explode, but the missiles own fuel , set the ship on fire. I think a number of other ships were hit too, many of the bombs failing to explode on the lower decks.

My brother was on one of those ships. the bombs that failed to explode were dropped by some very brave argy pilots who at great personal risks came in very low.

They failed to explode because they didn't have enough time to detonate due to being dropped too low. this was until the brains trust at the BBC reported same on the world service and the pilots dropped them from higher.

HMS Sheffield was scuttled as she was badly damaged and carrying nukes, very hush hush at the time and still officially denied. Helps explain why her Captain - Captain Salt was given an award shortly after. Not normal policy if you lose your ship.

Originally Posted by clean32

not disputing the fact

But all I can say is thank God I wasn’t born back then, im way to tall.

Me too, they sold an original union jack from the Battle of Trafalgar recently. Been handed down the same family for generations.

See £320,000 Union Jack flown at Battle of Trafalgar could start an export fight - Times Online

Originally Posted by martinozcmax

Even at 1200 it's 500 years or so older.

There are Egyptian textiles going back to at least about 2000BC, and I have an idea that there are others going back even further

HMS Sheffield carring Nukes??? for who, Sheffield did have the ability to fire such a weapon, i have heard storys that some RFA carried Nuclear weapons maybe Fort Austin, but these would have been for the aircraft.???



QUOTE=martinozcmax;1157173]My brother was on one of those ships. the bombs that failed to explode were dropped by some very brave argy pilots who at great personal risks came in very low.

They failed to explode because they didn't have enough time to detonate due to being dropped too low. this was until the brains trust at the BBC reported same on the world service and the pilots dropped them from higher.

HMS Sheffield was scuttled as she was badly damaged and carrying nukes, very hush hush at the time and still officially denied. Helps explain why her Captain - Captain Salt was given an award shortly after. Not normal policy if you lose your ship. [/QUOTE]