Isn't it time to get serious and start cruching cars?

A few thoughts:
Crushing Cars, what does it do apart from giving the relevent minister and Police Commisioner the opportunity to say "We're being tough on hoons" ? Said hoon will either get another car or steal one if he is not inclined to be reformed or if he learns his lesson will be saddled with a large debt that may lmpact his family more than him.

Speed limiting cars:
The argument that speed limiting cars is the solution to stop hooning makes as much sense as banning 4wds. After all there is no reason besides personal choice that most Australians NEED a 4wd. Maybe we should enact legislation that requires anyone that wants to buy a 4wd has to provide a duly authorised letter stating their proposed use for it. I'm sure that bush tracks would still get torn up and campgrounds wrecked in the same manner as they do now. Think about the similaraties between this statement and the desire to speed limit cars to 130 KM/H

Zero BAC:
The reason that we don't have zero blood alcohol levels is that it creates an administrative nightmare with people losing their license for taking medications or eating Rum Balls. there may be an argument for 0.2 but with the number of people being caught many times over the limit it would seem that current enforcement is lacking anyway.

Finally with respect to the current tragedy the driver in question was allegedly doing 140 KM/H, Had 6 people in a 5 seat vehicle, at least one of whom was not wearing a seatbelt and was not licenced to carry multiple passengers. Can someone point out to me how more legislation would have prevented this crash.

Regards,
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Originally Posted by PAT303

Why is it a government problem?,why do parents let thier kids have those types of cars?.When my son is 18 an buys a car he won't be buying any type of performance car,if he decides too and being a teenager he will he'll find all his cloths on the lawn and his room made into my study. Pat

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Except it isnt a performance car. It was an XR6 which is a standard Falcon with better seats and wheels and some spoilers. It has the same performance capability as many 4 cylinder cars of the same vintage and arguably more safety features.
XR6 turbo is a completely different vehicle and is not available to P platers legally.
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Originally Posted by Tank

Have you ever heard the saying it's a free country, if you want all of the controls on what we can do and buy, go live in North Korea or some other Despot State, Regards Frank.

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Yes I suppose your right it is a free country.
Hoons have the Free right to kill themselves and those of us that have no say in it.
Let's be barbaric and have no laws!
No disrepect BUT HAVE YOU EVER HAD ANY ONE CLOSE TO YOU KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT?
I HAVE TWICE -So don't preach about FREE WILL
The loved ones I lost had no right or freedom, they were taken BY SPEEDING OTHER DRIVERS!:mad::mad:

Yes your right, I should move to North Korea BEFORE SOME ONE BECOMES THE "HAT TRICK"

Driving instructors do a great job of teaching the kids the right way to drive, but sometimes I wounder when teenage daughter comes home from driving lesson with comments like,

The instructor said I was the best driver he has had for a long time (made after 1 lesson).:question:

You will only need one more lesson your that good at driving.

With comments like this its no wounder they think they are bullet proof.

Instead of crushing the car what about crushing the driver:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

why do parents let thier kids have those types of cars?

My first car was a little laser. best car i ever had

Apart from the disco :p:p:p

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Originally Posted by Sparksdisco

Instead of crushing the car what about crushing the driver:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

why do parents let thier kids have those types of cars?

My first car was a little laser. best car i ever had

Apart from the disco :p:p:p

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An XR6 is actually a very mundane car in terms of performance and as said just as a few more luxuries with no more power. On par with a Commodore V6 etc. There are a lot more high performance 4 cyl cars out there no one is questioning. Anyway what is wrong with having a nice car? Maybe we should include 4x4s in this debate, due to high centre of gravity, ability to damage pristine wilderness etc.
Any car can and will have the same result if driven wrecklesly. The majority of fatalities from high speed actually do not involve high performance cars but mundane daily drivers.
Oh and there were names we had for people that drove Lasers:p:twisted::eek:
Now do you likebing labeled?? I have had V8s since I was 17 and am not a dangerous or wreckless driver.
Oh and whatt about V8 Land Rovers, Supercharged Range Rovers and Turbo diesels??? Road bikes (most 250s will do 200kmph), power boats, jet skis etc

There is never going to be a zero road toll. There are many time more cars on the road now than there was when you were young, and the road toll has been REDUCING for a fair few years. Crushing cars won't stop young people doing stupid things. More visible police will. Steed cameras are revenue raisers only. Where are the young people supposed to go though? Government and councils keep closing any place for people to go and get it out of their system. I'm sitting right now on a spot that used to be Surfers Paradise raceway. It, along with another half dozen or more tracks in the area have closed and nothing has replaces them. So what do you think is causing the problem? Where can I go to drive my car fast without travelling 2 hours?

Crushing cars will only do one thing. Stupid people will lost their mode of transpots, lose their job and end up on welfare, costing taxpayers more than the cars value. Turning to drugs and theft is also a good chance.

i have always thought why do we need cars that can do these speed when 110km/h is our fastest speed limit.i agree sometimes you need abit more power for towing and overtaking but a car shouldnt need to go faster then 140km/h reely they shouldnt need to go faster then 110km/h being a teenager at the moment i am glad that i have a defender permant 4 wheel drive

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Oh and there were names we had for people that drove Lasers:p:twisted::eek:

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I heard them all before:p

Any way i dident need a big,fast or, flash car to feel excepted, liked, more of a man or to get the girls.

;););):p:p:p

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Originally Posted by JohnF

However Hymie, I thanked your post, but would prefer no drunks on road. If they are over the limit they normally do not go to jail the first time, but too many drunk drivers are repeat offenders.

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I've never been done for drink driving and have little sympathy for those that do.
I learned my lesson early on from the experience above, ie, the Police are always there and you will get caught.
Nowadays I will not get behind the wheel even after 1 drink.