Thread: Land Rover Based ?

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

its pommy compensation engineering.

if you cant make your CV's work properly under high angle high loads eliminate one of the highs.

since you cant really reduce the load that it might have placed on it they limited the angle.

I'm not sure this is the case. The turning angle of the wheels on the 110 are limited by rubbing on the radius arms, which are outside the chassis. On the Santana the springs are still under the chassis not outside it, but the track has been widened to about the same as the 110. Add the longer wheelbase on the 110, and I think you have the explanation.

John

I recall reading about these in LRO. From memory Suzuki had something to do with it. Leaf Sprung , Part time 4wd. No Seat boxes, Suzuki (Vitara?) seats and dashboard, No front vents and bigger windscreen. The reviewer said the interior was very plastic and cheesy.

Santana split away from Land Rover in the 80's, so I guess this vehicle evolved from the Series 3
You could say it is what the Series 4 Land Rover may have looked like


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moa8GBqdXPs&feature=related"]YouTube- Promo Santana PS10 ANIBAL #1[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W2vawZtZvg&feature=related"]YouTube- Promo Santana PS10 ANIBAL #2[/ame]

I did a bit of sniffing around a few years back but, as usual, one-off imports would be impractical and too $$$$.

Santana are selling right hand drive versions in the UK. (Exporting coal too Newcastle???)

Speaking of Land Rover clones:

Here is the Iranian Pazhan:

The series 3 Stage 1 had a Santana Chassis (well they used Santana blue prints from what I understand)
Saved on engineering and testing costs

Originally Posted by pirasea

So much for copyright and patent laws, eh? I reckon the grille setip looks like a smacked bum!

Santana built LRs under licence for about 40 years until LR pulled the pin. They obviously just changed the design just enough.

Santana did a lot of cool stuff that LR should have done:

3.4L 6 cyl versions of the 2.25P and 2.25D - while LR was using the crappy IOE 2.6

The LT85 - when LR was using the lt77...

Land Rover basically copied the Stage 1 from the 3.4L Santana.

Here is an early 1980 model. Note that it already has wind up windows and a one-piece windscreen.

Land Rover actually helped Santana develop the six but weren't interested themselves as they had a 3.5 V8 petrol, and the market wasn't there for a 3.4 litre diesel in Europe. They later had project Iceberg, to make a 3.5 alloy V8 diesel, so probably not interested in the 3.4 diesel for that reason too.

Jeff

Originally Posted by Jeff

Land Rover actually helped Santana develop the six but weren't interested themselves as they had a 3.5 V8 petrol, and the market wasn't there for a 3.4 litre diesel in Europe. They later had project Iceberg, to make a 3.5 alloy V8 diesel, so probably not interested in the 3.4 diesel for that reason too.

Jeff

Good points, but a pity the six cylinder diesel never got here - it would very likely have been used instead of the Isuzu.

What we need to appreciate though is that the outlook of Landrover in the late 1970s was constrained by two factors - Leyland was going down the gurgler, and as the only profitable part of the business, Landrover was being used to fund everything else; and the other point is that they have always seen their market as primarily Britain and Europe, and in that market nobody wanted a 3.4l petrol or diesel in a utility vehicle - in fact some countries had (and still have) tax regimes that make anything over 2.5l the preserve of luxury cars.

John

JD - just like Land Rover was just about the only profitable part of the Ford Empire too eh !
There's a message in that somewhere.

Re the Santana. Id had some good idea like the wide opening rear door. Interestingly the promo seemed to make a big deal of the fact it had leaf springs like they were a selling point ! Ironic then that at one point a single coil was loaded into the back of a wagon !
Oh and I liked when they loaded the ute up with plants coz I reckoned they would have stayed there til it got up to about 40 km/h.