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    Quote Originally Posted by richard4u2 View Post
    when is a tyre a new tyre a, when it has not been worn before or b, when it is only a few years old . i have an 85 rrc the tyres that were on it were okay but about 6 mts ago had to get a new tyre which went okay but after reading about tyres in the rac mag it says that tyres should be replaced when 7 years old so out of curiosity i went to check mine out and they were dated 02 and the new one just fitted was also dated 02, this is something i have never give a thought of before as to asking how old the tyres were when getting new ones , just wondering if you have ever asked the age of the new tyres you have had fitted ?? the rac says that the UV brakes down the rubber in the tyre would it not also be the case the rubber in the tyre brake down sitting in a tin shed for 7 years ? just wondering thats all
    If it was me, I would contact the tyre manufacturer (not the retailer) and ask what the usable age range of the tyre in question is - for both regular use and off-vehicle storage away from UV.

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    i was at a tyre shop having some tyres fitted......and enquired about a discontinued tyre.....the reply was.....obviously.......
    no...they have been discontinued........

    i told him i knew that......i was only asking icase there was any old stock.....

    it would be the only way for me to find a tyre that isnt made any more......

    he said that any tyres sitting on his shelf for 10 years.....get cut up and thrown out.......


    so.......going by that logic.....if a tyre is 9 years old.....its new.....10.....its only good for scrap......

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    Used tyre guys usually will not sell anything more than 5 years old for liability reasons

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    these were brand new.....err......never been roaded.......or fitted.....

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    From Bridgestone site:

    Aged Tyres- Beware Your Spare

    There is some evidence to suggest that aged tyres have an increased likelihood of failure due to exposure to the environment. Ideally tyres should be kept in a cool, dry environment out of direct sunlight and away from electric motors or other sources of ozone. If these conditions are not met a tyre may have an increased chance of failure. It is for this reason that Bridgestone recommend including full size spare tyres in the rotation schedule.
    How do I tell the age of a tyre?

    All tyres are produced with a serial Tyre Identification Number (or serial TIN) that shows the date of manufacture of a tyre (See Figure 1&2 below). The last three digits (for tyres made pre 2000) or four digits (for post 2000 tyres) of the serial TIN indicate the week and year that the tyre was made. For example, Figure 1 below shows a tyre made in the 37th week of 1995 and Figure 2 shows a tyre made in the 12th week of 2004. Also a tyre made in the 1990's can be distinguished from a tyre made in the 1980's due to a triangular indentation after the last number which is not present on 1980's tyres.


    Figure 1: Serial code for 37th week of 1995

    Figure 2: Serial code for 12th week of 2004
    How old is too old?

    This is a subject of much debate within the tyre industry and no tyre expert can tell exactly how long a tyre will last. However, on the results of experience many tyre companies, including Bridgestone, warrant their tyres against manufacturing and material defects for five years from the date of manufacture. Based on their understanding a number of vehicle manufacturers are now advising against the use of tyres that are more than six years old due to the effects of ageing.
    Tyre Ageing Mechanism

    There are three main mechanisms of tyre ageing. The first involves rubber becoming more brittle. Sulphur is used to link rubber molecules together during vulcanisation with the application of heat and pressure, giving the rubber its useful elastic properties and strength. As the tyre absorbs energy in the form of light, heat or movement the tyre continues to vulcanise. This ongoing vulcanisation causes the rubber to become stiffer and more brittle.
    The second mechanism of tyre ageing is oxidation involving oxygen and ozone from the air compromising the strength and elasticity of the rubber and the integrity of the rubber to steel bond. Basically heat and oxygen cause cross linking between polymer chains (causing the rubber to harden) and scission of polymer chains (leading to reduced elasticity).
    Thirdly, breakdown of the rubber to steel-belt bond will occur due to water permeating through a tyre and bonding with the brass plate coating on steel belts. This causes the steel to rubber bond to weaken leading to reduced tyre strength and reduced heat resistance. If compressed air used for inflation is not completely dry, tyre strength will be affected over time. Even unused tyres will become more brittle, weaker and less elastic with exposure to water, air, heat and sunlight.
    Warning signs

    Regardless of their age tyres should be replaced if they show significant crazing or cracking in the tread grooves or sidewall (Figure 3&4) and or bulging of the tread face or sidewall. All tyres, especially unused spare tyres, should be inspected periodically to determine their suitability for service. If there is any question about a tyre's suitability please consult your local Bridgestone Tyre Centre expert.

    Figure 3: Sidewall cracking due to environmental exposure to oxygen, heat and sunlight.

    Figure 4: Tread cracking due to environmental exposure to oxygen, heat and sunlight.


    Aged Tyres

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEFENDERZOOK View Post
    these were brand new.....err......never been roaded.......or fitted.....
    yep brand new from tyer power

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    Heres a couple more examples showing the whole DOT info.



    5th week 1984

    You definitely wouldnt want to be driving on this. Wouldnt even use it for a kids swing.



    26th week 1993

    A bit newer but still pretty old



    17th week 2003

    Newer again, nearly 7 years old.

    The first tyre is the factory original spare for my 1984 W123 Mercedes Benz
    The last two are 9.00R16 Michelin XY cases that I've just had re-capped. Cases still OK and getting harder to get in good condition.
    Other DOT (American Dept Of Transport) info relates to manafacturer, country, factory etc.

    Deano

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