Thread: Victorian Road Rules

Yep think thats right unless the beak has meet you before then you get a two year ban eeerrr

Originally Posted by SPROVER

Yeah most cops here in Vic have nothing else better to do then dish out demerit points and point there speed cameras at you while you do 2 kmh over the limit.He could have at least gave you a warning.But being the *****s they are he didnt. Maybe you should have offered him a bribe.They seem to be pretty good at taking them.

\mmm always helps to paint an accurate and clear picture doesnt it....

painting with a broad brush???

im assuming noone ever in your occupation was shonky (sorry shonks!) or dodgy at all.....

Mate, as has been stated. And quite eloquently by Diana. Tough titties. I also stay away from P platers. They have a poofteenth of driving experience, yet drive like they have been driving for years.

This isn't directed at you mate, but the mentality is that in the case of inexperienced driver's - all's well and good travelling in excess of the speed whilst blasting doof doof music from a sub woofer, texting mates - but when 5 year old little Johnny runs out in front of you - you have no ****ing hope. Mudmouse made the point of how P platers are over-represented in statistics - precisely.

And don't get me started on the ****wits who actually go to the trouble of using scissors to cut the white part of the P plate off, only to leave the actual "P"...****wits.

A drivers licence is not a right...it's a privilege...it should be held in such regard. The joke is, you need a licence to drive a car, but not to have kids...but that's another thread entirely...

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

its not so bad...

when I was driving trucks in sydney I had to display P plates on Heavy combination vehicles...

I got my license by converting my military license. Turned up on the day for my test on route from point a-b for a recruiting display, had 8 hours to do a 2 hours job and permission from the CO to use the combo to take my civvie test.

First instructor couldnt test me because he wasnt ticketed to drive a heavy combo.

next instructor couldnt test me because while he could drive heavy combo he wasnt lisenced for a crash box.

third instructor couldnt test me because he wasnt certified for the oversize load I had on board.

the boss came out took one look at it and simply said "you got it here, its not bent you pass"

then because my civvy car license was a old School NT one and not on the NSW data base when driving a civillian truck I had to display P plates because NSW had no record of me holding a civvy license.

try explaining to a cop whose just pulled you over for displaying P plates on a double articulated truck that no, you are not cocking about and yes, by law I have to display P plates on this oversize load.

Originally Posted by robzilla

problem was power-to-weight rules were too difficult to enforce. Cops used a "little book" of stats and figures and their accuracy was questionable. in other words, too much work
Again, was just easier to put a blanket ban on turbo's and V8's. Pretty funny when you look at what a fresh, red P-plater can hop into...

LEGAL:
BMW M3 (upto E46)
Porsche GT3
Lotus Exige
Nissan 370Z

but heaven forbid you jump into the old man's 3.5l D1 Discovery to go down the shops!

so now the cops wrote all these laws??

strewth there would be a lot better laws around if that were the case..

like:- indecent facial exposure
theft of oxygen,
idiot in public place...

there are so so many more.....

maybe think about it this way, who goes to the scene and waiting for ambos or firies to arrives tries to comfort the person in the car whos obviously about to die, or is badly injured and has killed/injured a mate....

who knocks on the door to tell mum/dad/wife/hubby/kids, sorry but freddy wont be coming home anymore...

who is the one who has to take a close relative to view the battered, deceaseds body and formally identify them?

maybe, just maybe cops have a vested interest in stopping young freddy from wrapping him/herself about a tree or nearby driver... maybe they see it differently to how you do....

and the cops dont set the fines or make the laws (in fact a lot of the time they arent even consulted hence loopholes ned kelly couldve got his head out of..) maybe talk to your local politician....

they make these laws....

Ohh and a CONSERVATIVE estimate on cost of serious accident in road blockage, damage, repairs, investigation, reccomendations and repairs/alterations puts average serious injury/fatal accident cost at about (picture Dr Evil) $1 million dollars !!!


throw me a bone here people!!!


seriously , youve had a stinger from one officer, it comes down to where you guilty of the offence? (even if its a ****y one?) if so, learn the lesson, pay the fine and make a mental note to be careful NOT to "donate" any money to the government in this (or any) other way in future....

if one carpenter does a crap job does that mean all chippies are bastards???

just wondering because im sure everyone can find an example...

my 2c

digger

Originally Posted by digger

so now the cops wrote all these laws??

lol where did that come from?

There was the power:weight ratio law. How does a cop know if a car is over/under the power:weight ratio? They looked it up in a book with stats on, i presume, all cars! but it was the printed stats in this book (i dunno who/where makes it) that were questionable.

As I have said before in another post....and this is getting off topic...when everyone else is running away from the danger...who is steaming toward it? Ambos, Firies, Cops ...so maybe, just maybe, instead of bagging the **** out of the cops...let's go along to our next Police Open day...shake a cop's hand and say thank you...you will shock the **** out of them. And whack a "Cops Are Tops" sticker on your car...might get you a warning instead

The idea behind P plates is sound. It gives other drivers warning that this car is driven by someone who is stil a learner and to give them room. Unfortunately they are exploited by the traffic police who know they are more likely to make a mistake and so are easy prey for achieving their performance targets.

In the early seventies P plates were done away with in Queensland with all the usual suspects (as they were then , not as organised or as well funded by the government as they are today) saying that there would be a blood bath as a result. Funny thing happened the accident rates for new drivers did not alter however the number receiving points and loosing their licences fell dramatically.