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    GPS System - Dashmount 7" touchscreen

    Thought I'd share my GPS setup in my D2.

    Here's the list of components-

    Hardware-
    • Garmin GPSMAP 76S
    • MPC-425 fanless computer (12VDC, Celeron M 1.5GHz, 512 MB RAM, 40 GB HDD)
    • CarNetix CNX-P1290 Dual Output 90 Watt 12V DC-DC Regulator
      Xenarc 7" Touch Screen
    • External GPS Antenna

    Software-
    • Windows XP
    • GarminCity Navigator
    • Garmin Metroguide
    • OziExplorer
    • RAVE
    The 7" touch screen is mounted on top of the dash. I've found if you pull out the radio, bolts can be inserted up through the vent from below to allow bolting of the screen. The supplied screen mounting bracked is screwed to a piece of flat MDF which is then bolted using the "through vent" bolts and suitable flat washers. This means I don't have to drill any holes anywhere and the whole thing can be removed leaving no trace. The radio goes back in of course. When parked in the sun I always use a silver windscreen shade to prevent excessive heat build up in the LCD screen. It's been there for a few years now.

    The screen has 1 VGA input (for computer video) and 2 composite video inputs that may at a later date be connected to a reversing camera or DVD etc. if I wish. It also has a USB cable which attaches to the computer to allow the touch screen to work. It is powered directly from the vehicles nominal 12VDC. Note that this scrren has proper VGA input. Many of the cheap screens don't have this and are really only good for watching TV, camera video or DVDs etc.

    I'm in the process of building a fibreglass cover for the screen. Currently it has a cardboard mockup over the top. The finished product will have a USB outlet in it as well to allow contection of USB memory sticks, camera or whatever else.

    The GPS is mounted on a RAM Mount holder next to the gear stick. This is part of a legacy install from before the computer and screen. I usually have a silver cover over the top. This keeps the hot sun off and minimises prying eyes a little. I leave it powered up all the time. I've had an older GPS damaged by the sun getting to the screen and causing a large black mark to slowly creep over one corner of the LCD screen. The GPS is connected to the computer by a serial interface.

    I found GPS reception significantly improved by using an external antenna mounted at the rear of the vehicle on the spare wheel mount. The antenna cable is nice and thin and can be run around the door (hinge side) and behind the pockets in the cargo area of the Discovery then under the carpet and door sills. It pops out just at the rear of the drivers seat and then on to the GPS. The antenna was only available in white at the time. I spray painted it matt black.

    The computer is a fanless model located under the passengers seat. A mounting plate was made with two strips of 90 deg angle aluminum bolted to it. This plate was bolted to existing floor studs under the seat. The aluminum forms two parallel rails for the computer to rest on. Each rail slots between the case heatsink ridges and holds everything tight. The power supply sits on top and the whole lot is held down with some elastic straps. Been perfect for 18 months it been there.

    The computer runs Windows XP SP2 and has been very stable. The CPU is a low power Celeron M 1.5 GHz. 512MB RAM seems to be ample. 40GB HDD has been ample so far as well. There are no fans inside the computer which improves reliability. The CPU is pressed against the case which asts as a giant heatsink. Only moving part is the 2.5" laptop style HDD. I keep image backups of the HDD. I guess on a long trip I could carry a spare and restore the image.

    The computer requires a regulated 12VDC to work. Vehicle power is not really suitable, so a DC-DC regulator is employed. It’s connected to an unused plug under the seat which has a constant 12V (nominal) from the battery on it. I guess it’s for electric seats or seat heater or some such thing. There’s a 40 Amp fuse supplying power and a thick (purple) wire so it can take a fair bit. More than my setup needs anyway.

    The DC-DC regulator also acts as a startup/shutdown controller for the computer. I have a small switch currently in a jiffy box tucked up near the Hi/Lo range selector. It signals the DC-DC regulator whether you want to start or shut down the PC. It has some added smarts to time the shutdown and kill power if the PC has not shutdown in a reasonable timeframe. Also has low voltage detection.

    Around town I run Garmin nRoute with City Navigator maps. This allows turn by turn navigation and works quite well. Has a few hiccups every now and again but it seems most software has its own quirks.

    Out of town I can switch to Ozexplorer and whatever topo maps I’ve got for the area I’m in.

    Most interaction with the system is by the touch screen and stylus. However I have a small PS/2 keyboard plugged in and sitting just behind the front seats. This allows entering street addresses etc in.

    The screen brightness can be adjusted from the screen’s front panel. At night I turn the brightness/backlight right down so it’s not distracting. With it dimmed down it becomes a faint glow. If I’m using nRoute I don’t really look at the screen anyway as it gives spoken directions.

    Here are some pics-


    (above) Dashboard with screen running Garmin nRoute and GPSMap 76s






    (above) Windows XP with custom wallpaper. Amazing how many people think it's a factory install....






    (above) Front view of MPC-425 computer. I didn't get the CD-ROM drive. All connections at rear.



    (above) 12V DC-DC regulator with cover off.


    (above) External antenna over spare wheel.

    If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them.
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    Very nice!

    But what's with the cardboard box shroud?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    Very nice!

    But what's with the cardboard box shroud?
    err, that's the mockup for the fibreglass cover. It's a work in progress....

    I'd better get my act together and finish it now
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowsGoMoo View Post
    err, that's the mockup for the fibreglass cover. It's a work in progress....

    I'd better get my act together and finish it now
    Thought it looked like a work in progress the rest looks really swish. I've thought of one of these PC's myself, but in the end I'm going with a tablet PC most likely - Photoshop, GPS, iTunes, Rovacomlite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    Thought it looked like a work in progress the rest looks really swish. I've thought of one of these PC's myself, but in the end I'm going with a tablet PC most likely - Photoshop, GPS, iTunes, Rovacomlite.
    I've actually got a mold almost finished. Just have to put some nice rounded corners on it.
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    I have an old P4 laptop that the screen doesnt work on - was thinking of doing that to it.

    i would like tyo strip the guts out of the lappy and mount them in a box of sorts and make something similar i have seen it done on a boyracers website for i think it was carmp3.com or some such.

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    What a great thread - particularly as I am building up a system myself. Just about to get a touch screen but not sure what to get as I am concerned abouit "computer" resolution vs "TV" resolution.



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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    What a great thread - particularly as I am building up a system myself. Just about to get a touch screen but not sure what to get as I am concerned abouit "computer" resolution vs "TV" resolution.



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    I'm not sure you could get a "TV resolution" screen (composite) as a touch screen. I could be wrong. I've never tried looking.

    My screen fully supports computer video (VGA). Be aware that LCD's have a native resolution that they will look best at. I'd have to check what I'm running. It's a wide screen aspect as well, not the common 1024x768 or 700x 600.

    I found the best thing was run at the native resolution and change to large fonts to make it a little easier to read.

    Mine is a rebadged Xenarc screen I bought from a company in WA (now also in NSW). If I had to get one again I'd measure up for the 8" one. I am happy with the 7" one however.

    Initially I ran a laptop (with the dash mounted touch screen) for about 12 months before getting the PC.
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    Did you not like using the on-screen keyboard of XP? I know its slower to use than a real KB, but 1 less piece of stuff about the place.
    I use an 8 inch screen that's on a hinge. It sits lower - in front of my CD slot but can be laid back on top of the dash when req'd.
    I like you wallpaper - might have to copy it.
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    Hmm, very nice!

    It's giving me ideas. I've an old 233MHz Pentium laptop that doesn't have a working screen (OK on external monitor).

    How expensive are the 7" VGA touch screens?

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