Cheers guys for help and they are standard 10" for now I will start stuffing around with it in a minute I'll try the things u guys have suggested and hopefully have work brakes today
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						The "bleeding" problem is usually caused by incorrect adjustment or mismatched shoes which means that proper adjustment is impossible & it takes a couple of pumps to get the shoes back close to the drums. Are the brakes standard or does it already have 11" brakes fitted? As JDNSW has said you can check for air at any union not just the bleed nipples. I use gravity to bleed brakes by making sure there is always plenty of fluid in the reservoir & then starting at the master cylinder crack each joint in turn & let the fluid flow until no air comes out. Most workshop manuals say to start at the wheel furtherest from the master cylinder but this only pulls air into places that may not have air in them. Try the clamping off of brake hoses I suggested last night as that should isolate where the problem is.
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						Cheers guys for help and they are standard 10" for now I will start stuffing around with it in a minute I'll try the things u guys have suggested and hopefully have work brakes today
I have been driving and maintaining Series Landrovers for over fifty years. I have never had brake issues that did not have a clear and definite cause, typically worn shoes, leaking oil seals, or leaking cylinders. I have never had real issues bleeding brakes, always just followed the manual instructions, and it worked. (You really need two people though)
My current 2a has always had reasonably good brakes, and currently, with new shoes and drums they are probably as good as new - which, for unboosted brakes stopping up to over three tonnes (including unbraked 750kg trailer) is not too bad, although pedal pressures are high by current standards, and they will fade and stop working after wading.
I think one of the problems is that we now have a generation of professional and home mechanics that have grown up with discs, and simply do not understand drum brakes!
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
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						If you get REALLY stuck I commute from the Sunny coast & sometimes end up in Rocky. If you figure it out yourself you'll remember!
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						Thankyou for ur help guys
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