Thread: Registration

They may have been doing conversions as a "service function" but not to new vehicles so you are looking at a point that is not probably relevant.

Under most State rules period modifications are allowed for historic registration and the Holden conversion should be allowed - however as you have found Clubs can ad their own additional rules and may consider a Holden engine inappropriate. You are bound by their rules so if a club does not allow Holden engines find another Club.

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

They may have been doing conversions as a "service function" but not to new vehicles so you are looking at a point that is not probably relevant.

Under most State rules period modifications are allowed for historic registration and the Holden conversion should be allowed - however as you have found Clubs can ad their own additional rules and may consider a Holden engine inappropriate. You are bound by their rules so if a club does not allow Holden engines find another Club.

Garry

All; N S W clubs are required to follow the rules , some clubs bend the rules , but if the **** hits the fan YOU are liable . N S W requires an engineering cert , if the car was engineered and you have the paperwork ( the R T A does not keep that paper work ) for that cert , you are OK , but even though that car has been registered for many years with that mod , if you do not have the engineering cert and you try to go to the historic system , you have to go to the to have that car engineered and go on to the modified system , but if we could prove that this mod was done buy the factory , this would change I know different states have different rules , but I am only concerned with N S W.

Originally Posted by thomson

All; N S W clubs are required to follow the rules , some clubs bend the rules , but if the **** hits the fan YOU are liable . N S W requires an engineering cert , if the car was engineered and you have the paperwork ( the R T A does not keep that paper work ) for that cert , you are OK , but even though that car has been registered for many years with that mod , if you do not have the engineering cert and you try to go to the historic system , you have to go to the to have that car engineered and go on to the modified system , but if we could prove that this mod was done buy the factory , this would change I know different states have different rules , but I am only concerned with N S W.

The modification wasn't done by the factory/dealer. It was usually later in the vehicles life when the original motor wore out and it was cheaper to fit a Holden motor.
There were some very well engineered conversions and some dubious home brewed ones with cross members removed or cut, I've even seen a piece of angle iron welded between the front dumb irons.

I can't comment on the NSW system for historic rego but as it was a period modification and as long as it isn't a significant increase in power then I would have thought that it would be possible to get historic rego. Maybe try and find other people in NSW who have a Holden powered Land Rover and see how they got it registered.

Best of luck,


Colin

Originally Posted by thomson

All; N S W clubs are required to follow the rules , some clubs bend the rules , but if the **** hits the fan YOU are liable . N S W requires an engineering cert , if the car was engineered and you have the paperwork ( the R T A does not keep that paper work ) for that cert , you are OK , but even though that car has been registered for many years with that mod , if you do not have the engineering cert and you try to go to the historic system , you have to go to the to have that car engineered and go on to the modified system , but if we could prove that this mod was done buy the factory , this would change I know different states have different rules , but I am only concerned with N S W.

The Holden conversion was considered a "standard modification" not sure of the correct term so as long as an approved kit was used no engineering was required as the kit had been engineered - it was given type approval. All that had to be done was the engine number sighted and details amended - different now but not back then. So was a period modification.

Unfortunately many clubs and officials dont remember this.

Now if you do the conversion now different but if it was a vehicle converted back in the late 60s/70s/80s and the RMS records have this change in engine number and type then engineering is not required - and this applies to NSW. I did it in 1979 with a series 1 and a 161.

So if your Club does not know this then enlighten them or change clubs.

Garry