Thread: Holden 202 into series 3s

Originally Posted by 1950landy

The V8's could have been a good car

Job I was in, just out of the Army, gave me cars to drive. The Kimberley was one. P76 V8 Executive was another. If the switches had worked, the trims had not fallen off, and the styling had been better executed it would have been fantastic. It was light years better to drive than an HQ, or XA. Sure, the V8s that GM or Ford had a lot more development available, but neither marque cared all that much anymore. If BL had been anything other than BL they could have been something here. But they didn't, and they weren't. Pity. GM, Ford and Chrysler needed a kick in the arse. BL failed to deliver. They got more than one from Toyota and Nissan and they never recovered.

Originally Posted by 1950landy

that has been a fault on all 6cyl Holden motore from day one.

Really?? Didn't notice... "Red" motors were worse than "Grey".

Originally Posted by Tins

Job I was in, just out of the Army, gave me cars to drive. The Kimberley was one. P76 V8 Executive was another. If the switches had worked, the trims had not fallen off, and the styling had been better executed it would have been fantastic. It was light years better to drive than an HQ, or XA. Sure, the V8s that GM or Ford had a lot more development available, but neither marque cared all that much anymore. If BL had been anything other than BL they could have been something here. But they didn't, and they weren't. Pity. GM, Ford and Chrysler needed a kick in the arse. BL failed to deliver. They got more than one from Toyota and Nissan and they never recovered.



Really?? Didn't notice... "Red" motors were worse than "Grey".

Very strange, but AMI which assembled Toyotas back then was majority owned by BL.

HQ Kingswood instead which was an excellent car , only main fault was the rear main they could not stop leaking , but that has been a fault on all 6cyl Holden motor from day one.[/QUOTE]


1950 Landy
Was it mainly the "rope" seal or the neoprene ones as well?


Cheers, Mick.

Originally Posted by mick88

HQ Kingswood instead which was an excellent car , only main fault was the rear main they could not stop leaking , but that has been a fault on all 6cyl Holden motor from day one.

1950 Landy
Was it mainly the "rope" seal or the neoprene ones as well?


Cheers, Mick.[/QUOTE]

I had no dramas with the later neoprene sealed rear mains on the 3.3’s. Aftermarket rope seals would last weeks, New OEM rope seals would stay leak free for almost 6 months...

Originally Posted by Homestar

1950 Landy
Was it mainly the "rope" seal or the neoprene ones as well?


Cheers, Mick.

I had no dramas with the later neoprene sealed rear mains on the 3.3’s. Aftermarket rope seals would last weeks, New OEM rope seals would stay leak free for almost 6 months... [/QUOTE]

You need the correct crankshaft to suit the seal, the ones suited to rope seals were knurled, neo's were smooth.
Even some of the Blue engines were still using rope seals.


Cheers, Mick.

Originally Posted by mick88

I had no dramas with the later neoprene sealed rear mains on the 3.3’s. Aftermarket rope seals would last weeks, New OEM rope seals would stay leak free for almost 6 months...

You need the correct crankshaft to suit the seal, the ones suited to rope seals were knurled, neo's were smooth.
Even some of the Blue engines were still using rope seals.


Cheers, Mick.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but the rope seals still leaked even with the correct crank. Dad had an HQ from new - it leaked from about the 3rd month of ownership.

We had the rear main done three times in the 1st year of ownership on the 202 in our HQ. My FJ ute, FE , HD X2 , HD Ute , HQ & VB Commodore all leaked from the reear main.

Originally Posted by sharmy

Very strange, but AMI which assembled Toyotas back then was majority owned by BL.

Not really strange at all. Sure, AMI did assembly of things like the Tiara, but Toyota took a controlling interest in AMI, and its Port Melb facility in 1968, a site Toyota occupied until they ceased Australian manufacture. Leslie Thiess had a fair bit to do with this. AMI assembled Triumphs early on, and Ramblers before the Toyota connection.
The P76, and as far as I know, the X6, had no connection with AMI, but were built at Leyland's Zetland plant in Sydney.