Thread: Are the brakes really that bad?

Look at it this way, The front rotors on a bread and butter BA Falcon Ute are the same diameter, but thicker and ventilated. The Iveco rotors are 297x22mm non ventilated. BA falcon One tonner ute has rear discs, and less than half the GVM of Iveco

the Iveco rear drums are 270 x80mm , smaller than land rover drum brakes and don't do anything - they don't even wear because they don't do any work.

It passes ADR but how ????

the brakes are absolutely horrendous and Iveco should be ashamed of them selves for not doing something about it.

I have been on this bandwagon for ages and looked for a brake vendor here that might help, any Brake Experts or Vendors here??

BHSS in Capalaba came to the rescue and took my ideas on board and now have kits in stock,



note CNC caliper adaptor


this takes the brakes from one of the worst on the road to the level of a 2WD Daily which has excellent brakes.

Thanks Don, so there is a fix, but..... it is hard to have faith in a vehicle manufacturer who would ignore a problem like that. Your video of the Iveco vs cow was very telling - have you sent it to Iveco? Could rattle their cage a bit.

It is difficult to see how they get away with brakes like that - is there a chance that your vehicle has some hidden fault? I would have thought that undersized, non-ventilated discs would result in brake fade, not near-complete lack of operation as shown in your video.

Land Rovers and Okas are looking pretty good still.......

Cheers, Paul

Yes Paul, I sent the video to the Head of Iveco Daily Australia, no reply.

also my web tracker shows Iveco Italy have visited my page on Iveco 4x4 Brakes so they know too, If I was telling a lie I'm sure their legal dept would be onto me by now. Iveco 4x4 Brake Problems

they definitely know the brakes are bad, but it passes ADR so they don't seem to care.

the rear brake lines fracture where the load proportioning valve vibrates, yet there is no safety recall.

Its not only my truck, they are all bad , yet the trucks are so awesome off road that the owners seem to have the attitude that , its a truck, so they expect it to brake like one and put up with it. I guess those owners have never driven any other trucks to compare. I have a Full Heavy Combo licence and have driven most types of truck and I can tell you the Iveco brakes are bottom of the barrel.

And Iveco can't pretend they don't know - they only make trucks and they know how other trucks stop.

BHSS did not take me seriously until they drove one for themselves, now we have a kit on the shelves, what does that tell you.

Don't let it put you off a great truck, the BHSS kit cost less that 2 Iveco brake jobs so its win win - you save money and you get better brakes.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply. The availability of a conversion to solve the problem certainly puts it in a better light - I still feel reluctant to deal with a company that cares so little for their customers welfare or good opinion, but at the end of the day if the trucks are that good.......

I guess I would always sigh for the Oka with its 4 wheel vented discs, but if the Iveco is as comfortable and as much fun to drive as the Oka I must think about it. I will try to get up to QLD to see if any of the makers can offer a test drive.

Thanks again,

Paul

What you get with the Oh-Veco that you don't with an OKA is a flat front floor, no transmission tunnel , (or engine box) in the way . very spacious interior, Its as quiet as a 2wd car .

The Iveco is filling the market segment that OKA had, but the better watch out - Bremach has caught wind of Iveco's attitude and are rumoured to be tooling up for RHD with Australia in their sights
. They are the perfect compromise between OKA / Iveco .

Also check out this blokes answer to the non existant engine braking. Marcus Tack is a master of lateral thinking and a genius to boot, (Iveco should hire him as a consultant)

did I mention there is no engine braking either. (PS EGR Blanking gives engine braking back - EGR Blank with 10mm hole gives engine braking & no ECU light)

Braking: electro-retarder installation | Tucks' Travels in a Truck

Bremach - very interesting! I have often wondered if they ever would hit our shores. I had read the story of the electro-retarder in Tucks Truck - brilliant work, but these days I prefer driving to wrenching, getting lazier as I grow older. That is the only reason I would ever deflect from the Oka - I only want to play and have fun these days, not work towards it.
Cheers,
Paul

Before Photos: note the backing plate which I've bent back in a futile attempt to get some cooling air in behind the rotor
this is the standard Iveco 297mmx22mm NON Vented rotor which costs $1500 to $1700 a Pair , and the front swivel housings must be dismantled to allow regrind or replacement. 6 hours labour just for a brake job .





Here we have the BHSS 350mm x 28mm Vented rotor, fitted to my truck. The rotor started life as a Mercedes Rotor, as you can see you can replace the rotor simply by removing the wheel and caliper.

Iveco are not interested in designing decent brakes for their 4x4, and are sticking their head in the sand with regard to the inadequate braking, This is what Aussie Ingenuity can come up with, from dream to reality in a matter of months , kit and fitting at BHSS in Capalaba.

obviously there are no backing plates, as they won't fit - but a waste of time anyway.