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    Do not unscrew the ball studs.

    There is a spring clip per the jpg below that retains the cable to the ball of the stud. You pop off the spring - actually just sort of pry it up a bit; if it springs off, it might be gone for good so take care.

    I think that the nut on the inside may be a loose nut and then more problems if you unscrew the ball stud. It is the same bit as the ball studs that retain the hydraulic struts re the upper gate at the top, (at least on the 3). If they ever come loose, you have a real problem as the retaining nut behind is not restrained by anything and just falls to well who knows where but for certain it does not stay up there.

    I expect it is the same with the lower tail gate except that you could probably find the nut and put all back together. Also while you are at the rear, check the ball studs on each side at the top - the one of the top right used to self unscrew and come loose.

    I do not recall unplugging the wiring and the gold box kind of slides out enough if I recall correctly. I seem to recall thinking how easy it was to get at the stuff, but it helps when the door is open and you are standing upright instead of squatting. If I did unplug the wiring, it was easy.

    Yes, duct tape to suture the incision; I probably did more cutting than necessary and yes, the gold box is more to the right,

    Cutting in about the middle rectangular depression works and then slitting to the right is about correct as you have to slide the gold box out. Duct tape is cheap and the carpet cover the wound. Just be caution of the wires as they glue themselves to the sticky of the dust seal so poke your finger in to feel ahead of where you are cutting.
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    ok great ....glad i checked as i was going to go for the nut with a spanner to release the cable ....i guess I pop off the spring with a flat screw driver ......and make sure i keep my eye on it as it pops off

    in terms of the procedure I guess the top and 2 side plastic trims come off before i undo the two cables ....or is the cable removal a necessary part of getting off the two side black plastic trims ...( they dont seem to have any nuts or screws to undo )

    tomorrow will put the patient under anaesthesa and perform the op .......

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    Can someone describe to me what happens?

    Is upper or lower that you can't open?

    I ask because I am set up for remote touring and I have a cargo barrier so I can survive if I can open the upper tailgate but not the lower, but I would be in a lot of trouble if I couldn't open the back at all. I would probably have to break a window.

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    Andrew, it's the lower one that fails.
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    Sean

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    I think ....but not sure as i have not opened up my patient yet .....that the top part of the tail gate locks into the lower part ,,.....and the failure issue is with the lower part .........hence the need for a mod that allows for manual release of the lower part ...that in turn releases the upper part .....someone who has better understanding and done the mod will be better able to explain ........but it looks like if you have drawers and /or cargo barrier and the systems fails ........you have no access .....so thats what im working on and trying to understand how to do the MOD

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    Breaking the window does not even open the gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnD3rew View Post
    Can someone describe to me what happens?

    Is upper or lower that you can't open?

    I ask because I am set up for remote touring and I have a cargo barrier so I can survive if I can open the upper tailgate but not the lower, but I would be in a lot of trouble if I couldn't open the back at all. I would probably have to break a window.
    The miserable bit is that breaking the rear upper glass does not cause anything to open. Yes, it will allow you some access to the lower gate carpet to break that out - (what does it matter then), so eventually you can release what is left of the upper gate and then electrically release the lower half, (one hopes).

    All the moving parts and electrical is in the lower half.

    To answer a previous question, one easy way to get the carpet off assuming the lower end gate is down is to first remove the upper black plastic cap, then the wind up cables and then slide off the black plastic end caps. The carpet is glued to a piece of flexible backing and that is clipped to the metal of the lower end gate. The clips are supposed to pull free and release; for the most part, they do.

    The more I think of it, some sort of manual cable release should be considered a necessary part of a cabinet install; as to a cargo barrier, I guess it should be part removable from the front side - kind of important if Fido is back there.

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    The problem seemed to occur on the D3,has anyone had this issue with the D4 or has it been modified in some way?

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    Performed sucessful anastomosis of a bifurcation to the main cable giving access to the posterior orifice of my LR to day .....the patient is well and the surgeon is chuffed

    I attach pics of the mechanism of 2011 D4 so those familiar with this mod will be able to tell if its different from D3 ....I did note that the housing for the accentuator was silver not gold .....and it has that L shaped peice of metal folks talk about that goes into a bit of plastic ......I guess that bit of plastic is what breaks

    Only problem I had was with the end black trims .....they would not come off ....and after applying force ....( not always the best approach ) the plastic plugs that go into the metal of the tail gate sheared off .....I applied super glue to them on the way back and hope it holds . I only removed one side and used the famous golf club retractor to keep the carpet skin back while I operated

    I used nylon coated 7 strand 100 lb fishing wire .....(the nice thing about this stuff is you can weld it to itself with a gas lighter and make neat strong loops ) and two electrical joiners trimmed down as per pic ......then pushed the whole thing back up under the trim with a little peice of webbing protruding .......IN EVENT OF EMERGENCY PULL TAB .....tested it and it works a treat ....thanks for all the help .....one less thing to go wrong in middle of simpson desert.........only 5 pics allowed so a few more to follow
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    the rest of the pics ....im sure they will be helpful to someone......Oh ...and so glad for the tip to clamp the cable supports ....they really want to shoot into the cavity once you release them .....could be nasty to get them back out .......
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    Nice to see the golf club doing a great job holding things up :-)

    Also, where you have left the cable tucked away in the upper section of the lower tailgate, you may want to think about extending it & having it sit near the second row doors (again not sure if you have a cargo barrier installed &/or load space packed to the roof) as if it fails again & you have said barrier installed you will not be able to get at the pull cable.

    Just a thought.

    Cheers

    @ Scarry - I have seen no failure in a D4 yet !

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