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    Question Buying a D4...

    Guys, I am looking at buying a new D4.

    I am coming out of a Prado D4D and am considering the V8 (I am a hoon at heart...).

    I had a Freelander in 1999 and after that experience a Disco Td5, neither of these worked out well and both spent at significant time in the workshop. Since then I have had only Toyotas and a Mitsubishi, all had no problems apart from the Mitsu being very expensive to service.

    So ...
    1. Is reliability still an issue with the D4 (probably a slightly biased audience I know :-)
    2. What are the real service costs like for the V8 (and the Diesel)? I had a deal with Toyota where it was only $180 every 10K km.
    3. I do a bit of off road, nothing serious, bush track and beach mainly. I see the V8 has 20" rims. Any options of AT tyres for this size wheel?
    4. Are any rear drawer systems around for the D4?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Hi circlethewagons,
    The reliability issues changed dramaticaly when the D3 was introduced (for the better).
    It will cost you more than $180.00 for a service. Not sure of cost difference between the diesel & the V8.
    There are more tyre options for the 20" rim compared to the 19", but you will have more chance of damaging a rim with the 20".
    I think there are options for the rear draws.
    There are others on this forum that can probably add to your queries.
    My opinion is to go for the 3.0Lt Diesel. More torque at lower revs, heaps better on fuel, heaps better resale.
    Cheers, Craig

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    Coming from Prado to a 3.0L TDV6 the D4 will feel like a like a rocket.

    Are there actually any D4 V8 owners on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by circlethewagons View Post
    I had a Freelander in 1999 ... neither of these worked out well and both spent at significant time in the workshop.
    I feel your pain, having had the Freelander 1.8 Xei (new head gasket at 27,500km, new engine at 37,000km etc)

    I only bought another LR after doing extensive research and finding out the FL2, RRS, & D3 have all significantly improved. (Having said that, LR is still last on the JD Powers survey each year)

    I have bought a D4 3.0 SE.

    I would advise budgeting an extra $2500 for an extended warranty that will cover you for another 3 years or 60,000kms more.

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    Count me as another vote for the 3.0 diesel - more than enough grunt for pretty much most (safe) hoonery, I reckon! Put the extra moolah into other goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by circlethewagons View Post
    Guys, I am looking at buying a new D4.

    I am coming out of a Prado D4D and am considering the V8 (I am a hoon at heart...).

    I had a Freelander in 1999 and after that experience a Disco Td5, neither of these worked out well and both spent at significant time in the workshop. Since then I have had only Toyotas and a Mitsubishi, all had no problems apart from the Mitsu being very expensive to service.

    So ...
    1. Is reliability still an issue with the D4 (probably a slightly biased audience I know :-)
    2. What are the real service costs like for the V8 (and the Diesel)? I had a deal with Toyota where it was only $180 every 10K km.
    3. I do a bit of off road, nothing serious, bush track and beach mainly. I see the V8 has 20" rims. Any options of AT tyres for this size wheel?
    4. Are any rear drawer systems around for the D4?

    Thanks in advance.
    Do yourself a favour and read the threads on rims for D3/D4's. There are plenty on the forum. Essentially if you are into the harder off road work, and you have some respect for your rims, the 19" std rims on the 3.0lt are a disadvantage. The 2.7 lt comes std with 18" rims, but can be retrofitted with 17" rims. The 3.0lt cannot downsize as the brake rotors & calipers are larger.

    Do some research before committing.

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    Only Research you need to do... is;
    1) Check your bank account
    2)SE or HSE... then buy a 3L D4!

    Dorko

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    I agree Dorko. The more I drive my 3.0 the more it seems to loosen up and gain more power & torque.
    I'm sure that anyone who drove the 2.7 for a period of time, then drove the 3.0 for the same period of time, would forget about rim size.

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    Without a doubt Disco4SE.... pffft the rim size is no war stopper. Just need to learn to drive and understand the D4. Once you work out its behavior its a tough machine!

    Dorko

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    Quote Originally Posted by circlethewagons View Post
    Guys, I am looking at buying a new D4...
    and am considering the V8 (I am a hoon at heart...).
    Circlethewagons,

    As you would no doubt be aware the V8 only comes in HSE spec, which is great but pushes the pricing well up.

    From all reports the 3.0L Diesel is an awesome engine and with the SE version you get most of the fruit and the option to spend the extra cash on some additional fun bits.

    The 2.7 TDV6 in the D3 and lower spec D4 is also a highly capable engine, might not satisfy your inner hoon but I think it would surprise you and either way, any of the engine options will be an improvement over the Prado Diesel.

    Servicing costs will be higher than a Toyota, accessories are harder to find but reliability has improved significantly V's early LR models. I think you can buy with confidence now (but I would say that as I own one, but after 1 year no problems).

    The key issue is that a D4 is simply a much better vehicle, on road and off road than the Toyota, so what every you choose you should be impressed .

    Regards,

    George

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