Thread: slight shudder from auto trans

It is an aftemarket product and not factory so I am not sure if dealers will sell them. The pan is made by A&B Auto's in dandenong.

I got mine through Ritters. AMV also do them (both in Vic). Sorry not sure of any one in WA who sell them.

Hi Caver D3,
I've purchased a new pan from A & B it's on the way, so now somewhere I saw a picture slide of the actual fitting of the steel pan, I cannot find this anywhere now, do you know where this picture strip is? You seem to know most other stuff!!
Oil seems to be the other hot topic, I was quoted close to $100 / litre from LR which whilst I'm sure it's really good oil but this does seem to be a tad over the top. Apparently it's a Shell oil, A & B use another oil so there is alternatives is there anything out there that is regarded as a equal? I'm quite heavily into Royal Purple lubricants so I'm chasing this up with them, they are usually very helpful and usually have the right answer even if it does cost a little bit extra. Can you shed any light on this little lot?

Hi Busman,
Just to let you know, "you are not alone", I've had this happen a couple of times when taking off with my camper trailer on the back, no other time as yet. I'm planning a bit of a trip around Xmas I've got 90k on the clock so I'm about due for an oil change.
Based on your experience and others advice I'm now going down the steel pan route. I've bought one from A & B today, it's on the way. The prices was as specified, that was without the oil, that added a fair bit more on top especialy getting the oil over to Perth. A & B were most helpful I must say, great to deal with.
Depending on what I get back from the forum will depend on what oil I plumb for I'm not really up for a $1k oil change if I can help it.

Hi Nomad
NFI where the picture is.

But the ATF I know something about.
ZF Australia supply the ATF for A&B autos. It is the same as the LR product and comes from ZF Australia. I think it is about $20 a litre wholesale. They quoted about $32 a litre for 15L it also comes in 44 gallon drums.

ZF Lifeguardfluid6 (ZF No. S671 090 255)


Approved lubricants for service fills

According to spare part number of vehicle manufacturer:
AML Oil No. 4G4319A509/AA/S
Audi /VW Oil No. G 055005 A1 / A2 / A6
Bentley Oil No. PY112995PA
BMW Oil No. 8322 0142516
Hyundai Oil No. 040000C90SG
Jaguar Oil No. Jaguar Fluid 8432
Land Rover Oil No. TYK500050
Maserati Oil No. 231603


http://www.zf.com.au/Tech%20Info/Lub...s/TE-ML_11.pdf

See:DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - ATF Group Buy?

LR OEM is a rip off.

Hi CaverD3
See helpful as ever. After reading that quite lengthy thread I think I'll go with the ZF tranny fluid. RP have got an equivalent, but reading the post / thread, comes down to risk and consequence, high risk significant consequence, never sits well on a risk matrix. The local ZF repair shop round the corner from me has some Lifeguard6 I'll see how much he wants for 20 litres. I'll assume that the Lifguard mixes with the OEM oil seeing it's basically the same, I'll never get all the old oil out. Thanks for the help as usual.

ZF have an alloy pan to fit the Falcon ZF sisx speed. Not sure if it will fit the D3?
I'll see what they sy.
Take photos when you fit your pan. A&B say just rip out the old fiter with the pan and chuck it. You don't need to undo the cross member or anything else.

Can anyone who has had similar problems describe this "shudder" ? Is it something that makes the whole car shudder, or more of a mild harshness you can feel through your feet on the pedals ?

My 2007 V6 has the latter - I'm wondering whether it is the dreaded gearbox vibration that a lot of folks talk about, or nothing to be concerned about...

feels more like the car has repeated consecutive hesitations rather than a vibration.