Thread: Beware Charging Dual Battery in D4.

Originally Posted by drivesafe

Love that bear, and if you ever come to Australia, watch out for our Koala bears, they can be really dangerous, like they tend to **** on you.

Actually, they only seem to do that when politicians hold them. Perhaps not such a dumb animal after all.

bbyer, do they mix petrol with diesel in Canada. They use to do it in some of the Scandinavian countries, to help with winter starting.

I'd be more afraid of the drop bears. You need to be careful when sitting under trees.
They're kind of a crossbreed between a Tasmanian Devil and Koala. No ones actually managed a photo yet as they keep getting their heads mauled when they drop and subsequently die


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Originally Posted by drivesafe

bbyer, do they mix petrol with diesel in Canada. They use to do it in some of the Scandinavian countries, to help with winter starting.

Not any more. The oil companies now blend what they call winter diesel, (Diesel #1 and variations thereof), which has a somewhat different pour point or what is properly called "low cloud point" per below.

Also attached is a BP pdf related to Australian "winter" diesel; (Alpine Diesel to be proper about it), well that must mean you guys normally use Desert Diesel, something I have never heard of here.

The Cloud Point is the temperature at which paraffin, which is naturally present in #2 diesel fuel, begins to form cloudy wax crystals. When the fuel temperature reaches the cloud point, these wax crystals flowing with the fuel coat the filter element and quickly reduce the fuel flow, starving the engine. Typical cloud point temperatures range from: -18°F (-28°C) to +20°F (-7°C), but may occasionally be as high as +40°F (4.4°C). #1 diesel fuel (or kerosene) contains very little paraffin, and therefore has cloud and pour points near -40°F (-40°C).

Also some of the big highway trucks here have fuel heaters installed to warm the diesel coming out of the fuel tank assuming it will flow out as -40C fuel is not always low enough and why once you get an engine going, you do not shut it down.

This is also one of the reasons LR is not importing the diesel engine versions here - it is just too tough to get them started and keep them running in the winter, battery or batteries regardless. Even Mercedes has its problems here - they have not got it quite figured out yet whereas Kenworth, GM, Ford, and Dodge has.

We used to pour gasoline into aircraft radial engine crankcases upon shutdown and then upon startup in the morning, the gasoline would boil out. Now, electric blankets or propane or diesel Herman Nelson heaters are more common.

Actually it is the cassowary that in your parts, scares me. They kick good - did a bit of a number on my Uncle when he was over there chasing roos in a Rover when he should have been on the rig floor. Limped for the rest of his years.

Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE

I'd be more afraid of the drop bears. You need to be careful when sitting under trees.
They're kind of a crossbreed between a Tasmanian Devil and Koala. No ones actually managed a photo yet as they keep getting their heads mauled when they drop and subsequently die I am not a moderator, I am a human being!!!

Helicopter photos of the rascals are not possible either because of the jungle canopy, so I have heard. At least our polar bears are easy to see coming at you - kind of like the Jaws movies.

I understand that Vegemite seems to protect one if you consume enough for a long enough period prior to visiting down under. Unfortunately, Vegemite is banned here in the Colony but we have all developed a good appetite for Marmite; hence I wonder if I would be protected?

Originally Posted by bbyer

Helicopter photos of the rascals are not possible either because of the jungle canopy, so I have heard. At least our polar bears are easy to see coming at you - kind of like the Jaws movies.

I understand that Vegemite seems to protect one if you consume enough for a long enough period prior to visiting down under. Unfortunately, Vegemite is banned here in the Colony but we have all developed a good appetite for Marmite; hence I wonder if I would be protected?

They seem to know the difference somehow. I guess being a uniquely Australian animal they don't approve of that foreign muck!


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Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE

They seem to know the difference somehow. I guess being a uniquely Australian animal they don't approve of that foreign muck!

Gee, I had hoped I was protected. I did watch all the Crocodile Dundee movies so I thought I knew everything about Australia.
At the same time, I do not seem to recall seeing Mick save the Shelia from that fate; ah well, probably because being rich, she was able to bypass the import restrictions on Vegemite and yes, there is a difference.
This is one of the reasons I find this forum so fascinating - the things I learn. One has to stay awake here.

Originally Posted by Wilbur

Roverlander, GSM in Queensland make an excellent DC-DC convertor that is ignition controlled rather than voltage controlled. I agree with you entirely, you always want the maximum possible charge in your cranking battery. In extremely cold weather, or if an accidental over-use of accessories occurred, one could become stranded.

Paul

Hi Paul,

I tried to find GSM Queensland to get more info but no luck... Do you have any more info please? I would like to look at the specs.

I will also post a separate update and some photos of my current setup.

Drivesafe, you may be a little upset to hear that it is working perfectly....and always with a completely full main battery... And separate set of second batteries in case I need to jump start from them.


Peter

Originally Posted by RoverLander

Hi Paul,

I tried to find GSM Queensland to get more info but no luck... Do you have any more info please? I would like to look at the specs.

I will also post a separate update and some photos of my current setup.

Drivesafe, you may be a little upset to hear that it is working perfectly....and always with a completely full main battery... And separate set of second batteries in case I need to jump start from them.


Peter

Hi Peter,

I will check back on my receipts tomorrow, and send contact details. Glad to hear your Redarc did the trick - they are also a good company to deal with, very responsive to questions. If it was necessary, I am sure they would modify your exisiting unit for ignition control, of for a voltage range better suited to Discos.

Cheers,

Paul

Originally Posted by RoverLander

Drivesafe, you may be a little upset to hear that it is working perfectly....and always with a completely full main battery... And separate set of second batteries in case I need to jump start from them.

Hi Peter, and I am neither upset nor surprised and was simply after any updates.

From what you have posted, you never gave the standard set up a real try so yes I am not surprised it works for you, it's just that others have achieved similar and better results for a fraction of the cost.