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    Burst pressure for the lines is 1200psi, the bag is about half of that. I didn't want to sell anything that was "the weakest link".

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    That's the right attitude Gordon I'm still waiting for you to get it sorted, and I wouldn't want to be the "weakest link"

    Cheers Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by gghaggis View Post
    In my experience, when a serious fault is encountered (compressor, speed + height sensor etc) the car drops to the bump stops, not access. No amount of twisting of signals, sensors etc will lift it.
    The supension will drop to approx access height for any bus-reported ABS fault or for loss of contact with the ABS ecu. Braking a wheel speed sensor wire can and does occur and is an ABS fault, and the vehicle does drop. It is not a suspension fault but a special precaution taken by the suspension ecu just because it can - another nanny looking after people but without consideration of where the vehicle might actually be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbyer View Post
    I ordered push fit DOT metric brass fittings from Australia per the link below. These are the metal push fit ones with the little 4mm ferrule inside for reinforcement.
    The fitting on the dryer outlet to the reservoir valve block is a simple plastic push-in connector without an internal ferrule, so I can't understand why these would not be suitable for emergency use for the air springs with their much lower pressures. I already carry 6 mm plastic joiners of the type used by my truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    The supension will drop to approx access height for any bus-reported ABS fault or for loss of contact with the ABS ecu. Braking a wheel speed sensor wire can and does occur and is an ABS fault, and the vehicle does drop. It is not a suspension fault but a special precaution taken by the suspension ecu just because it can - another nanny looking after people but without consideration of where the vehicle might actually be.
    In some cases maybe, but it will depend on the output of the plausibility algorithms. A single speed or height sensor failing will normally bring on an amber warning and an attempt to freeze the car at the current height. Two sensors out or a continual failure of one will result in a red warning and a drop to the bump stops. This is significantly lower than access - try disabling 2 height sensors. This height setting is not set via the height sensors - no amount of fiddling with their output will raise the car. A similar scenario exists for multiple speed sensor failure or a combination of either.

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    Gordon, Plausibility algorithms...........what the????
    Hope you don't use too many of those big words at the Melbourne training night!
    Cheers, Craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by gghaggis View Post
    In some cases maybe, but it will depend on the output of the plausibility algorithms.
    I agree with what you are saying regarding suspension faults, but an ABS fault is not a suspension fault yet the vehicle will be lowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    I agree with what you are saying regarding suspension faults, but an ABS fault is not a suspension fault yet the vehicle will be lowered.
    agreed, and that is just annoying as there is no reason for it to do this. Typically you'll also lose Terrain Response, all gears except for third, no low range either, speed will be limited and the dash will show a warning about wearing clean underwear in case you get run over followed by an automatic hand extending to wipe your nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmp View Post
    agreed, and that is just annoying as there is no reason for it to do this. Typically you'll also lose Terrain Response, all gears except for third, no low range either, speed will be limited and the dash will show a warning about wearing clean underwear in case you get run over followed by an automatic hand extending to wipe your nose.
    Hmmmmmmm...I haven't got that, must be the software upgrade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    I agree with what you are saying regarding suspension faults, but an ABS fault is not a suspension fault yet the vehicle will be lowered.
    Yes, my previous post was written from my phone, after struggling to get the cursor in the right place for each sentence and trying to edit it for 30mins or so I gave up, so it probably doesn't make much sense ........... should have given it to my 7 year-old nephew and just dictated

    If any fault condition causes a cascade of errors (more common on the earlier D3's, but can still occur on the later models), it is possible to trigger a major EAS malfunction error. In that case you will be dropped to the bump-stops. Whilst in theory an ABS fault should do no such thing, in conjunction with another fault, or if the ABS fault is registered multiple times (above a certain threshold number), it may.

    In my D3's, I was dropped to the bump-stops from a series of errors that were fundamentally caused by the Parking Brake Module. It also occurred with a wheel speed sensor fault in conjunction with a height sensor failure. It also occurred with a twin wheel speed sensor fault.

    You get the picture ..........

    Bump stop height takes a few people by surprise, especially if you're running larger tyre sizes such as 285/60R18 or 265/70R17:

    Access height


    Bump-stop height


    In these situations, the ability to pump up each bag manually is a great advantage. My mid-range performance compressor would get the car back up to around on-road height fairly quickly, which helped get us out of one or two rather nasty situations. Swapping my rods over in those instances would have had no effect.

    Cheers,

    Gordon

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