Thread: newbie with some daft questions for the experts

Originally Posted by Ozzy119

Hi Everyone,
I've been advised to go for a 2.7 and option it up to 7 seats and a few other bits. Main reason is the daft 19inch road focused rims. But I really like BGF's (tried and trusted so really this is a personal issue) and even the 18inch rims on the 2.7 will have to go. Can I fit 17's on it and what are the options? (annoyingly the Pathy comes in 17inch, even the new 3ltr power house one, so a quick tick for them)

Snorkel, who makes these for Landrover?

Winch capable steel bar? ...ARB?

Now this one might sound so daft, but can you drive extended journeys at cruising speed and all other conditions in the high clearance raised air setting. Our road off camper trailer is high and will be nose diving on the standard hitch height, even with the Mitchell hitch adaption.

I'll probably have a load more Q's on mods later, once I'm hopefully a new proud owner. At the moment my biggest hurdle is getting over the rim sizes.

thanks for some feedback.

Hi and welcome to the forum!
I am by no means the experienced one here, but after hanging out here I can comment that:
1) There is no fitting the 17 inch rims on the 3.0. 18 inch rims seemed to limited to a model that needed a group purchase/import, and it is one of the most recent posts (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...s-d4-3-0l.html)

2) Snorkel - LR make a "Raised Air Intake" which is not waterproof. Safari make the waterproof snorkel

3) Winch capable steel bar - ARB and Opposite Lock and ECB make them (The links go to the discussion threads).

4) Driving at height - there are several devices that allow this but it looks like "LLAMS" is the go. It is a in-cabin knob that will allow you to add/reduce height to any of the factory preset heights.

No offense meant to you, but a quick search on the forum will yield useful results and there won't be too many to sort through as it seems people are pretty good at not starting too many new threads about the same things. Hope the above is useful to you, and hope you join the fold soon.

Cheers!

BFG ATs are available in LT265/65-18 as a possible option for 18" rims on a 3L.

I have the 2.7TD 7 seater and absolutely love it, as does the rest of the family. Great ride, handling and features.

As the other questions have been answered if you want to run in standard height and are using a regular tow ball hitch get yourself an "alumi stinger" hitch available in 2", 4", 6", 8" & 10" drop/rise (rise is 1" shorter for each range).

I only mention these as the ride is harsher when the suspension is in off road height.

Hi,and welcome to the forum

Originally Posted by Ozzy119

At the moment my biggest hurdle is getting over the rim sizes.

My issue as well,that's one of the reasons i still have the D2.

There is heaps of good info on here about the D4,search is your friend.

And remember no question is a daft question,keep em coming.

Good luck with your decision.

Originally Posted by brad72

I have the 2.7TD 7 seater and absolutely love it, as does the rest of the family. Great ride, handling and features.

As the other questions have been answered if you want to run in standard height and are using a regular tow ball hitch get yourself an "alumi stinger" hitch available in 2", 4", 6", 8" & 10" drop/rise (rise is 1" shorter for each range).

I only mention these as the ride is harsher when the suspension is in off road height.

Thanks everyone for the great replies. Plenty for me to read up on. (i'm still searching and back reading through the eons of data)

Brad, it's a treg hitch but will look into what you have suggested.

It seems that tyres are, as with other vehicle groups, SUCH a hot and on-going topic.

cheers everyone, hope to place my order very soon.

Welcome Ozzy119.

Eddomak has done the hard yards for you, but I''ll throw my 2cents in since I believe I'm in a good position to make comment: I currently have both a 2.7TD D4 & a R51 Pathie. Both modified/accessorised.
Both have to tow an offroad caravan and an offroad trailer during their lives.

And it's no contest. D4, D4, D4, D4, D4, D4, D4, D4 !!!!!

The Pathie requires it's factory springs & shocks to be ditched to provide significantly improved onroad and offroad behaviour. Also will need helper air springs (PolyAirs) in the rear, otherwise it sags something dreadful when towing any decent load. When this is done, the onroad performance is great. But the lack of articulation and a poor traction control system makes the Pathie a very poor offroad choice. Offroad you have to pick the right lines and the vehicle struggles, compared to Prados etc make a cake of more difficult lines.

By comparison, a bog standard unmodified D4 will drive & perform better onroad, off road, and towing. The difference is actually lightyears ahead.

Three years ago I was in your position: Pathie or a D3? I got a Pathie.
Now I have a D4.
Since then, on reflection I wished I had taken the plunge earlier & got the D3 instead of the Pathie.

Ozzy

You can fit 17's on a 2.7 litre D4.
265 x 70 x 17's will fit on a D4 albeit a bit of a truggle to get the spare in the wheel well..
As previously mentioned you can get BFG's ATKO in 265 x 65 x 18 & they will fit.
They are horrendously expensive in Australia however you can get them landed in Australia from Tirerack in the US for about $300 ea.

Regards

Chuck

Ozzy 119,

Ozzie, try the FAQ at the head of the D3/D4 channel. Most of your questions have been answered already.
For a couple of your specifics, look up Performance wheels BB6. They come in a 17x8" and are rated higher than the std LR wheel. Others have already directed you to the D4 options in 18", if you must have 18's on a 3.0 litre. If you can't find enough data in your search, send a pm to GGHAGGIS.
As far as hitches go, search for Mitchell Bros Hitch. Looks good and can be used with any 50mm Reese style lug. If the fixed height offset lugs are still not high enough for you, you can use the Hayman Reese weight distribution lug ( adjustable with cams etc ) However DO NOT use the bars that come with the kit. You don't need them anyway.

If you can't work it out, send me a PM with the ball height of your trailer when levelled. I can work out which lug will do the job for you.

You will also find plenty of threads on the pros and cons of the D4 2.7 against the 3.0 litre. Have a good read. Seriously, even the 2.7 has no competition amongst the other 4WD's ( including the Pathfinder ) other than the range of models in the LR range.

Happy hunting.

Neil