Thread: Nitrogen infllation of tyres?

to fully calibrate the meter...

"hiclones make turbo diesel engines more effecient and powerfull" thats a firmly pegged at the stops 10/10.

"The last factory engine put in a vehicle worthy of the defender badge had 5 cylinders" should see the meter hovering at about a 1. (disputable due only because what the tdi300 looses in power economy and the timing belt it balances with its simplicity and lack of electronics)

"the best engine landrover never made for but installed in a shed class rover is a diesel with 4 cylinders each of nearly 1l capacity" should see the meter failing to react at all.

Motorcycle road racing is a sport that is more reliant on correct tyre choice and tyre pressures to get the fastest and safest lap times than any other motorsport and I don't know of any Australian teams either privateer or factory using nitrogen.

I have a mate who was a manager of a large bike shop and he told me that when he had introduced free nitrogen top ups for his customers his accessories sales had dramatically improved because people came into the bike shop on a far more regular basis to check tyre pressures.

He thought it quite amazing that so many people could be dudded so easily.

cheers,
Terry

Is there any merit to the "nitrogen required" sales pitch that says if you have those internal tyre pressure sensors, that they false alot unless one has at least 96% nitrogen in the tyre?

I was thinking of putting in some kind of after market tyre sensor setup when I next purchase tyres, but the idea of having a nitrogen fill / top up requirement all the time pretty much kills any idea of doing the remote sensor thing. Even if nitrogen was a good idea, (and I do not think it is for normal vehicles), for me, nitrogen would stop me from checking the tyre pressure everytime I wash the vehicle because if a tyre needed topping up, well it would not be all that easy.

In the winter, I usually check tyre pressure at the car wash as it is inside and hence warm. The idea of checking tyre pressure outside in freezing conditions means a possible valve freeze up and hence a leak and then I am changing a tyre outside in the cold - not smart, or trying to thaw a frozen valve with alcohol - a real waste.

My 2005 LR3 does not have the tyre pressure monitoring system - only the symbol. I think however, that most newer vehicles here now have some sort of tyre pressure monitering, but they still just run on normal air - well 78% nitrogen if you are into that sort of thing.

I am thinking of putting a sign up:

New, improved, special 78% Nitrogen Inflator mix for your tyres' increased health, now with an extra 10% pressure to save your life, increase your handling and get extra MPG too !!!111!!!

Originally Posted by bbyer

Is there any merit to the "nitrogen required" sales pitch that says if you have those internal tyre pressure sensors, that they false alot unless one has at least 96% nitrogen in the tyre?

No. A pressure sensor should be able to measure the pressure in just about any gas mixture.

Originally Posted by bbyer

Is there any merit to the "nitrogen required" sales pitch that says if you have those internal tyre pressure sensors, that they false alot unless one has at least 96% nitrogen in the tyre?

I was thinking of putting in some kind of after market tyre sensor setup when I next purchase tyres, but the idea of having a nitrogen fill / top up requirement all the time pretty much kills any idea of doing the remote sensor thing. Even if nitrogen was a good idea, (and I do not think it is for normal vehicles), for me, nitrogen would stop me from checking the tyre pressure everytime I wash the vehicle because if a tyre needed topping up, well it would not be all that easy.

In the winter, I usually check tyre pressure at the car wash as it is inside and hence warm. The idea of checking tyre pressure outside in freezing conditions means a possible valve freeze up and hence a leak and then I am changing a tyre outside in the cold - not smart, or trying to thaw a frozen valve with alcohol - a real waste.

My 2005 LR3 does not have the tyre pressure monitoring system - only the symbol. I think however, that most newer vehicles here now have some sort of tyre pressure monitering, but they still just run on normal air - well 78% nitrogen if you are into that sort of thing.

Actually be aware of the new improved air mix which contains 400ppm Carbon Dioxide (0.04%). This is a climate warming gas which will cause massive melt down within the microclimate of your tyres/tires due to gradual increases in temperature. Said meltdown will then cause seismic eruptions in your wallet leading to a tsunami of cash in the direection of the tyre/tire dealer

Originally Posted by isuzurover

No. A pressure sensor should be able to measure the pressure in just about any gas mixture.

That is good to know as it seems "progress" just continues to get more complicated.

I think I will suggest to my Land Rover dealer the "78% Nitrogen Fill" as a standard invoicing surcharge on an oil change/service.

They currently charge me a "Work Order Processing Fee", (10% add on upcharge), so I am certain that they would find great merit in the 78% billing concept as well.

They said Land Rover Owners seemed to object when they called it a "Shop Fee" to cover the odds and ends, but have no problem with "Processing Fee" - go figure?

78% Nitrogen - All Natural, as Mother Nature Intended - got to be worth paying for and what is a bit of Greenwashing. If you say it often enough, it starts to make sense.

Originally Posted by Hoges

Actually be aware of the new improved air mix which contains 400ppm Carbon Dioxide (0.04%). This is a climate warming gas which will cause massive melt down within the microclimate of your tyres/tires due to gradual increases in temperature. Said meltdown will then cause seismic eruptions in your wallet leading to a tsunami of cash in the direection of the tyre/tire dealer

And airing down will cause greenhouse warming for which you will need to pay a tax.......

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