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Thread: OEM Wrangler 19"ers - too many punctures

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    OEM Wrangler 19"ers - too many punctures

    I haven't had a puncture in years and I've just had three in a week. I went out to Benarkin State Forest this weekend with my family and some friends. Nothing unusual about the load or the driving (as I've been there before). I got a nail through one of the rear tyres last weekend but thought nothing of it as it was a pretty long nail. However, this weekend, I punctured two tyres (the rear, worn ones) just driving on Forestry tracks.....both from sharp rocks going through between the tread.

    Apart from the fact that it was a major pain in the ass unloading to change a tyre on the way home, the D4 had masked the fact that the tyre was going flat. I pulled over in Esk as the car had started feeling a bit wobbly and was horrified to see that the side-walls had been chewed away. If it had blown.....well you all know how ugly that could have been. Heavy car with wife and kids on board....not happy Jan!

    So my take...unless you intend on never leaving the hard-top, you need to be aware of the tyre's shortcomings and I don't just mean off-road capability...it's a hell of a co-incidence that the new front tyres are unmarked. The last time I drove the D4 over the same terrain, the tyres were new and of course had no issue. But to sell a tyre for an expensive truck, that will punture in relatively mild conditions, just 'cause they have gone through close to half their tread, is dangerous and criminal.

    Sorry for the ramble folks...but I now have two 'good' tyres on the front, two repaired tyres on the rear (that are worn) and no spare. I am going to buy a new set of tyres (albeit ahead of time) but from reading the threads on this site, that may take a week or so.

    Regards,

    Kev.
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    However the real reason for the post is to suggest a tyre pressure monitoring system??? May give you a little peace of mind and as you are changing tyres anyway now would be a good time to fit the internal tyre set-up. Just a thought
    cheers
    P.S. Yes i am sure you may have already thought of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by NomadicD3 View Post
    However the real reason for the post is to suggest a tyre pressure monitoring system??? May give you a little peace of mind and as you are changing tyres anyway now would be a good time to fit the internal tyre set-up. Just a thought
    cheers
    P.S. Yes i am sure you may have already thought of this
    LOL....yes....every paranoid moment on the drive home....hahaha.

    My mate drove his D3 all round Australia and purchased a system due to the fact that he had trashed a brand new 18" Cooper, without realising it had gone flat.....I sat there wishing all the way home, that I had the same.

    Cheers,

    Kev.

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    The Wranglers are a pretty useless tire on dirt in any size.
    Had a puncture every off road trip until I went to Cooper HT+s and now GGs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaverD3 View Post
    The Wranglers are a pretty useless tire on dirt in any size.
    Had a puncture every off road trip until I went to Cooper HT+s and now GGs.
    Yup, gonna bite the bullet and have been looking at a new set...Not OEMs that's for sure! The range is really limited in this size but leaning towards Scorpion ATR. Apparently they are available in Brisbane.

    Originally I was trying to get a couple of second hand Wranglers to give me time to buy the Pirellis from the US.....but think I'm just going to get them locally while they are available. That way I'll have the car back on the road by the end of the week.

    Cheers.

    Kev.

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    Wranglers HP's being discontinued.

    I am posting this as good news. My 19" Wrangler HP's are finally worn out so I am in the process of choosing new 19" "summer" highway tyres.

    Part of me wants the Good Year Silent Armor rubber, (actually the Kevlar), but there is nothing available in 19", at least here in Canada.

    While I was at the local Good Year dealer, I mentioned that while I am in theory a Good Year fan, the Wrangler HP's were the worst tyre I have ever experienced. He agreed with me and said he pretty much had always refused to sell them except maybe a single to match up with an OEM.

    Anyway, for 19" summer tyres, my choice seems to be between the Michelin Latitude Tour HP and the Pirelli Scorpion ATR. The Michelin's are maybe fifty dollars a tyre cheaper and probably have more highway miles in them; also perhaps a better ride and have Kevlar / Aramid wound into them. Also I note that here, that the Tour HP is standard on the FFRR.

    For any off pavement use however, the ATR is the choice.

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    No More Wranglers.

    Thanks very much for the offers of help and the PMs (some posts have been deleted due to an oversight of my own).

    I bit the bullet and booked the car in for Scorpion ATRs (fitted tomorrow).

    Whilst doing it this way has hit me in the hip pocket, I'm travelling this weekend and going away at Easter, so I needed the peace of mind that my tyres would stay inflated.

    And in response to your comment bbyer, it was funny, the guy doing my repair in Blackbutt was trying to be diplomatic when he mentioned the Wranglers. I anticipated his angst and stated "it's OK mate, I know they are crap"....he just laughed.

    Regards,

    Kev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbyer View Post
    I am posting this as good news. My 19" Wrangler HP's are finally worn out so I am in the process of choosing new 19" "summer" highway tyres.

    Part of me wants the Good Year Silent Armor rubber, (actually the Kevlar), but there is nothing available in 19", at least here in Canada.

    While I was at the local Good Year dealer, I mentioned that while I am in theory a Good Year fan, the Wrangler HP's were the worst tyre I have ever experienced. He agreed with me and said he pretty much had always refused to sell them except maybe a single to match up with an OEM.

    Anyway, for 19" summer tyres, my choice seems to be between the Michelin Latitude Tour HP and the Pirelli Scorpion ATR. The Michelin's are maybe fifty dollars a tyre cheaper and probably have more highway miles in them; also perhaps a better ride and have Kevlar / Aramid wound into them. Also I note that here, that the Tour HP is standard on the FFRR.

    For any off pavement use however, the ATR is the choice.
    Hi BBYER,
    i can thoroughly recommend the 18 in rims from gghaggis. I placed the silent arnours and aside from slicing the sidewall on one (not to the point of deflation) i am really happy with them.
    Cheers,
    Peter

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    Have 18" SE rims for my winter tyres.

    Quote Originally Posted by petera View Post
    Hi BBYER,
    i can thoroughly recommend the 18 in rims from gghaggis. I placed the silent armors and aside from slicing the sidewall on one (not to the point of deflation) i am really happy with them.
    Cheers,
    Peter
    My best purchase on eBay a few years back was a set of four 18" rims from an SE for my winter tyres. I have six of the 19" HSE rims that I use for my "summer" highway wheels/spares. For summer use, 19" is OK as it does not matter much what one has on - that was how I tolerated the Wrangler HP's anyway. For winter, that is another matter.

    Higher profile narrow rubber matters in the snow and therefore a selection of tyres, even more so. At least with 18", one has a pretty good choice. Myself, I think what makes the Silent Armor a good tyre is the Kevlar within. Any tyre I have had that has the Kevlar, (Aramid to Good Year) has been a good tyre in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbyer View Post
    My best purchase on eBay a few years back was a set of four 18" rims from an SE for my winter tyres. I have six of the 19" HSE rims that I use for my "summer" highway wheels/spares. For summer use, 19" is OK as it does not matter much what one has on - that was how I tolerated the Wrangler HP's anyway. For winter, that is another matter.

    Higher profile narrow rubber matters in the snow and therefore a selection of tyres, even more so. At least with 18", one has a pretty good choice. Myself, I think what makes the Silent Armor a good tyre is the Kevlar within. Any tyre I have had that has the Kevlar, (Aramid to Good Year) has been a good tyre in my experience.
    Would you use the silent armours in the snow without chains?

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