Thread: New to LR

Originally Posted by blazing928

interesting economy figures.
We have a 4.4 X5 that is doing 15.6lt/100 around town.
So a 3.0D4 doing 11.5 is saving at $1.54lt for Vpower $6.20 per 100km or for us who do under 10,000km per year $620, give or take a few bucks.

A recent trip Melb to Canberra via east coast and back via the Alpine Way, 4 up with roof box [cause it has $##** load space] we got around 12lt/100km. Often gets around 10.5lt/100 if you don't add hills like the Alpine Way, eg a trip to Torquay.

I have often been recomendedd by service agents and independants to get a V8 if you don't do a lot of miles [and you like the grunt], also long term cheaper to service.

Second hand D3 V8s are a lot cheaper than the 2,7, so for low miles it stacks up $ wise.

I drove a 3.0 after a D3 2.7. Massive difference, shouldn't do that!

Personally i like the D4 V8, fully loaded with all the goodies! Does any one actually have one??

I have the D43.0 and tow trailers regularly, mostly around town. I average around 11.5Lt per 100Klm's.
I wonder what the X5 would get around town pulling the same weight?
On a trip, hills or no hills, I can get as low as 8.5Lt per 100Klm's.
Cheers, Craig

Originally Posted by blazing928

interesting economy figures.
We have a 4.4 X5 that is doing 15.6lt/100 around town.
So a 3.0D4 doing 11.5 is saving at $1.54lt for Vpower $6.20 per 100km or for us who do under 10,000km per year $620, give or take a few bucks.

I have often been recomendedd by service agents and independants to get a V8 if you don't do a lot of miles [and you like the grunt], also long term cheaper to service.

Second hand D3 V8s are a lot cheaper than the 2,7, so for low miles it stacks up $ wise.

I drove a 3.0 after a D3 2.7. Massive difference, shouldn't do that!

Personally i like the D4 V8, fully loaded with all the goodies! Does any one actually have one??

I agree Blazing928 I reckon the love affair many people have with diesels is not often based on economics even though most diesel owners mainly speak about how economic it is to own a diesel compared to a petrol V8. Its always been the case of the cheapest part of owning any vehicle is buying the fuel it runs on.

The price difference second hand for a diesel versus a V8 is massive and it would take years and often a couple of hundred thousand clicks to get back financially in balance especially once you add in the diesels service costs.

Still diesels in a number of instances can do the job much better, mainly for towing heavy loads and going long distances in the bush / outback where fuel, especially high octane petrol, is hard to find.

If I was not towing a heavy dirt road van that we intend to go bush in occassionally then I would have been more than happy with a faster smoother quieter and much cheaper to buy V8 D3.

If buying new though and the price difference between a diesel and a V8 petrol was very similar I admit I woud buy the diesel mainly because of its much better resale value.

Still each to their own...

cheers,
Terry

Originally Posted by blazing928

I have often been recomendedd by service agents and independants to get a V8 if you don't do a lot of miles [and you like the grunt], also long term cheaper to service.

Second hand D3 V8s are a lot cheaper than the 2,7, so for low miles it stacks up $ wise.

I drove a 3.0 after a D3 2.7. Massive difference, shouldn't do that!

Personally i like the D4 V8, fully loaded with all the goodies! Does any one actually have one??

There are a few lurking around with the V8 but:

1. The 3.0 lt TDV6 and the V8 are about the same $ when new;
2. The V8 is pretty thirsty which for some means limited touring range (if you are only doing 10,000 km pa then probably not such a big issue for you);
3. The 3.0l TDV6 is reputable almost as nice to drive as the V8, with ample low down torque and uses less fuel and holds its resale;

That is why not as many V8's are sold as the 3.0 Diesel.

George.

Hi again,

thanks for your welcoms and responses...

Its good to hear good things from the 2.7 owners - coin is a consideration for me and for a 10K savings over the 3.0 (even on 2nd hand & demo) I am leaning towards the 2.7

I have 3 young kids that are getting bigger and bigger pretty quickly, i need to carry bikes and the usual family trip stuff and logic says the Disco can handle it all.

Next step is to do some test driving.....Can anyone recommend a good dealer in Melb (sth eastern Melb)?

Originally Posted by Martyboy

Next step is to do some test driving.....Can anyone recommend a good dealer in Melb (sth eastern Melb)?

See the boys at ULR in Malvern. Tell them that Craig the Builder sent you.

BTW blazing928: I don't know too many Disco drivers that travel only 10,000Klm's a year. I'm more like 50,000, so the figures on diesel v petrol are way more amplified.

Cheers, Craig

Yep V8D3 are about $10Kcheaper than the diesels and lots have only done around 70,000km. Maybe because they cost too much to run!!!
Most 2nd hand diesels have done 150,000Km plus. I also like to drive with the window open around town, the diesel isn't a nice noise vs the V8.
Parents had a couple of early Disco diesels, so you do get used to it.

Deacon were very positive about V8s. They tow a lot [horse floats] and say the fuel econ is very good. I used to tow race cars behind our old RR, economy was prettty good when cruising.

A D4V8 is way more new as its fully loaded, $127K + on road so nearly $140, one may not need all the options, especially $4000 for rear entertainment, vs $1000 for two Ipads.

Agreed that the diesel is the flovour when it comes to resale, as depreciation is your biggest expense.
I won't buy new because of this. Our X5 was new & highly optioned. If I am generous in guessing a sale price privately, then its lost nearly $1000 a month in depreciation, my father in laws Merc has lost $1000 a WEEK in the last 8 years......!

D3 & D4 have held their values very well, but I would suggest trying to wait and find a 1 to 2yo D4 and spend the savings elsewhere, like a mortgage. or maye another old Ducati....

carsales has a 2010 D4V8 8000km at $97K, not a bad saving from new

Welcome Marty
I confirm what the others are saying.
Have done 68000 km in my MY2008 D3 TDV6. Most of that has been with AT tyres.
The car is used as a daily drive in Sydney and the occasional touring and offroading. We have two teenagers who have no trouble with long days on the road in the car since as tourere it is so comfortable. As far as the short tips go the car has no problem with city traffic at all and as stated before if you need some more go -then trhow it into sport mode.
Offroad, it is amazing, once you learn the electronics and to switch the stabillity control off. The thing will go just about anywhere (just don't bother with Land Rover side steps - they bend).
Fuel consumption for me is 11litres/100km over the time I've had it and that driving is mostly the commute in Sydney.

Drive on, it will be a revelation.

Cheers
Mike