Total Engine Failure 2005 D3 TDV6

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Originally Posted by RichardK

Hmmmmm............ interesting............... after a days 4WDing at Harvey last Saturday week my 09 D3 was flatbedded back to Perth (see WA trip reports), what started as a tick tick very quickly became a loud knock knock.

At this stage we haven't taken off the sump as this will be taken further.
My engine has done 118000 k's.

I rang LRA today and expect to be called back tomorrow.
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G'day Richard, - Any reply or news from LRA yet ?

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Originally Posted by superquag

C'mon you lot, - Confess !

- how many more of you keep a Jap car as the spare or back-up or shopping trolley.... because its so reliable and cheap to maintain....:p

- The 626 has become my commuter car for all the above reasons...

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Not me I don't have a Jap car as a back up as you infer is needed to keep on the road reliably if your a LR owner ...having said that I do have three Disco's which between them does the job nicely. ;)

One gets the feeling from most of your comments on this topic that your well over LR's SuperQ ...that's a shame but if that is the case then enjoy what ever non Land Rover product it is you end up buying and driving in the future. :angel:

cheers,
Terry

Okay, the suspect head was removed and the culprit was found........ no. 3 piston moves up and down about 10mm...... probable big end problem.

Have been in contact with LRA and we are now formalising the problem by taking the csar th the dealer who will remove the sump from the engine to identify the exact problem, thake the necessary pics and forward them tho LRA for their opinion.

My opinion at the moment is that if a big end has failed then there will be a warranty claim as a motor should last well beyond 118000 k's.

I would hope to know LRA decision perhaps by the end of the week.

I would point out that this is the third discovery I have bought from new, my D2 (2003) was traded at 128000k"s with no major problems, my previous D3 (2005) was traded at 168000k's with no major problems. All vehicles can have problems and this was my turn.

The other thing to remember is that Landrover do not make the motors, they are built by PSA (Peugeot Citroen)? and like many manufacturers, Landrover source engines, gearboxes, diffs etc. from many manufacturers so Landrover quality control cannot be held responsible for the inner problems of an assembled motor.

No mate that's a big coP out. They don't make themselves virtually any component so if any component fails be it a bearing in a uni joint or a motor or wiper motor etc that isnt an LR problem? Lr need to be accountable for the component choices they make and quality programs and testing of those manufacturers. On a more agreeable note my bet is that if your vehicle was reasonably serviced and maintained you will get a out of warranty warranty fix. They might first offer you to pay for the parts and you pay labour but you will likely get there in the end. Cheers

You probably misunderstood me, my comments were my own observations, of course LR are responsible for any warranty failure of their finished product, my point was I can't blame Landrover for an internal failure of a component they didn't build even though it is part of their product.

I got your point Richard. I have a different view of it. Cheers

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Originally Posted by superquag

Absolutely !

And its the same company, - Land Rover, with the same ideals, quality control (?) business models, warranty, (dis)interest in its Customers.... etc etc.

They need to read their own brochures and advertising...and make sure that the product is 'Fit for Purpose'

Personally, I don't think the later LR's are 'Fit for Purpose', as the demise of another TDV6 over here in WA seems to indicate...

As a parting shot.... the ex-Rover 'tragic' used to get his D2 returned approx every 3 months (on average) with another "problem".... But the KIA has been 100% trouble-free since he bought it over 12 months ago. (2nd hand).
Go figure !:twisted:

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Why are you here, you obviously don't like Land Rovers and are hell bent on telling people you don't, wouldn't you get your message across better on another forum, where most like minded people of your type are more likely to hang out:confused:

Maybe a KIA forum:angel:

Baz.

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Originally Posted by superquag

........ But the KIA has been 100% trouble-free since he bought it over 12 months ago. (2nd hand).
Go figure !:twisted:

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Well just try to put your KIA in the same places that we put our LR's and treat it in the same manner and you will be need a broom and shovel to pick up the pieces :D

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Originally Posted by superquag

Absolutely !

And its the same company, - Land Rover, with the same ideals, quality control (?) business models, warranty, (dis)interest in its Customers.... etc etc.

They need to read their own brochures and advertising...and make sure that the product is 'Fit for Purpose'

Personally, I don't think the later LR's are 'Fit for Purpose', as the demise of another TDV6 over here in WA seems to indicate...

As a parting shot.... the ex-Rover 'tragic' used to get his D2 returned approx every 3 months (on average) with another "problem".... But the KIA has been 100% trouble-free since he bought it over 12 months ago. (2nd hand).
Go figure !:twisted:

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LOL yep.. Think I will trade my RR in for a KIA:D What was I thinking!

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Originally Posted by Camo

LOL yep.. Think I will trade my RR in for a KIA:D What was I thinking!

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Hmmm, I think the one kia I went to test drive, well I couldn't actually get it to select a gear and then the gear boot broke off. That is my lasting impression of Kia. I do however think that of the Korean brands that Hyundai is under rated but neither of them are in the same market as Land Rover.... so who cares about them really.