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    Unhappy Total Engine Failure 2005 D3 TDV6

    **** what do I do now?

    2 weeks ago Sydney Harbour tunnel - south bound 8:50am - big rattle from under bonnet - all the dash warning lights go on, flash a couple of times - before I can get hand to ignition, engine dead, knock in to neutral, role to stop. Harbor tunnel rescue crew tow me out off the tunnel.
    Get car on tray top and to dealer, explain what happened.

    Dealer says leave it with them. ( I have a pretty good idea from the noise that the engine is history. Hoping that I'll get away with short motor ?)
    Dealer rings - might have good news - they were able to get the engine to turn over - maybe its just the fuel pump?

    Been avoiding call from dealer, eventually we make contact, worse news, sump off - found bits of bearings.

    Dealer says need whole new engine -$10.8K plus $3.8K labor! Explains that they would not trust a short block - don't know what bits of metal may have done to the top end of the motor. (plus side is full motor comes the 20k Km or 12month warranty)

    Dealer says its the first full engine replacement they have done on a D3 TDV6.

    Disco is 2005 model TDV6 80,00km serviced by LR all services except one.

    I have owned since new - this is my 3rd Discovery and first major break down.
    Should I trust the repairs to this dealer?
    Can I shop it around and see if I can find a better price ?
    Would one of the LR specialists -e.g. Coopers or Ayres take on a job like this ?
    Should I expect that a "new" engine means all new hoses and belts ?
    Guess while the body is off and the engine is out I should get the auto serviced too ?
    Is there anything else I should get done while its all apart ?
    Will writing to LR do any good ?
    Is there any recourse through Dept. of Fair Trading/Consumer affairs?

    Apologies for the ramblings - but I feel the need to ramble to try and collect my thoughts?

    Any suggestions welcome
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    Hmmmmm............ interesting............... after a days 4WDing at Harvey last Saturday week my 09 D3 was flatbedded back to Perth (see WA trip reports), what started as a tick tick very quickly became a loud knock knock.

    I have had the motors' top end stripped as we initally thought a valve may have dropped or a lifter collapsed but all was well, after lifting the head the diagnosis is a big end failure through either a slipped bearing, nuts dropped off or other reason. At this stage we haven't taken off the sump as this will be taken further.
    My engine has done 118000 k's.
    I rang LRA today and expect to be called back tomorrow.
    If they decline to replace or repair the motor then I will take it further as although the warranty is 100,000 k's the implication is that it should last a lot more than that, in fact the consumer affairs people I believe take up these problems and have been very successful.
    I have heard although not directly that this is not the only incident of a TDV6 having bearing failure.
    There are a couple of other comments I could make but now is not the time and we will see what is going to happen.
    Your case, if your engine has done only 85000 k's although out of warranty, could be worth taking up with the consumer affairs department in your state.
    RichardK

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    Did the dealer give an explanation?

    (Maybe test the oil for water/diesel contamination)

    Not much help, I know, but a bottom end failure on a 'young' motor is a bit unusual!

    Does your insurance (not warranty) cover this?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdenyer View Post
    Disco is 2005 model TDV6 80,00km serviced by LR all services except one.
    I know this vehicle is out of warranty, but the warranty period is 100,000km. If it were me, I would ring the dealer principal where you bought the D3 - and ask (nicely), "Is this is typical of D3s?" Then hint that you were about to trade it in on a D4, but if this is typical of Land Rovers - they can't even make it to the end of their warranty kilometres before a catastrophic failure - then maybe I will look elsewhere. "Unless you - nice Mr Dealer Principal - can help me out with some of the costs."

    Otherwise, going via a Legal route is a way to recoup funds spent on repairs.

    I know the repairs at the St Leonards shop are top notch, however their prices match the service. I've been happy with them.

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    rdenyer

    Alto are a good dealer and have been good to me too.

    They have done a replacement engine bfore though. (new counter staff would not remember it as it was at Artarmon) It had a lot lot more ks on it and LRA kicked in and still brought the price down to $6,500.

    Maybe you will be lucky and it is the fuel pump?

    If it is the motor though you can claim under consumer legislation for what is a "reasonable expectation that the engine should last longer. However for a 2005 vehicle do not expect to pay nothing. If you push I am sure LRA will come to the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardK View Post
    ..I have heard although not directly that this is not the only incident of a TDV6 having bearing failure.
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    Several on Disco3UK over the years . Not high/hard use either.
    I think one guy was in Norway with a 2 year factory warranty just expired.
    The 2.7 in the D4 has the 3.0 bearings ........... ummm ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil P View Post
    The 2.7 in the D4 has the 3.0 bearings ........... ummm ....
    Is that common parts where the 3.0 runs in 2.7 bearings or is it an upgrade on what the 2.7 used to run and indicative that the manufacturer needed to upgrade the bearings etc.
    Cheers
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    That sux mate sorry to hear about it. Hope it all works out for you the D3 is a nice bit of kit.
    Regards
    Robbo

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    The 2.7D4 now runs 3.0D4 bearings . As to why , anyones guess .....
    There's alot of these engines out there , and you're very unlucky
    if this happens to you.

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    Sadly (for you) this is another good reason for not buying a beautiful D2 diesel from a friend of mine... had all the latest manifold upgrades etc, - and two heads before the 3rd one lasted...
    Was offered it for $8k, subsequently went for $14k+ at a dealer... Passed it up 'cos I could'nt face the unreliability and potential financial ruin!
    - It was his pride and joy, along with his RR-engined Truimph Stag, but a family member finally returned it permantly due to constant little niggling break-downs. Admittedly, all relatively easily fixed, but incredibly annoying and inconvenient.

    He eventually traded it on a KIA Sorrento, put it on LPG and after 12 months of mourning he's TOTALLY over the Rover.

    Pity, 'cos it went like a scalded cat!

    Seriously, LR should come a long way into the party, a catastrophic failure like that is *not* what you expect from a DIESEL in any vehicle at that low mileage.

    Or do the Koreans build a better-designed, more robust engines with appropriate quality materials ? - Their warranties say so...

    Cynical & Critical James in Gosnells.

    - Also Over the Rover, 95 Vogue SE with leaky Air Suspension that was ok a few months ago...

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