Thread: Total Engine Failure 2005 D3 TDV6

The time limit on warranties is a cop out IMHO. Mechanical equipment does not wear out while the vehicle is sitting in the drive way.

The manufactures warranty is not the end of the story. The Fair Trading Act, the Trade Practices Act and the Sale of Goods Act create 'implied warranties'. These implied warranty requires vehicles to be (amongst other things):

1. Of merchantable quality;
2. Fit for the purpose for which they were acquired;

If Land Rover wants to wash it hands of a total engine failure after only 80k then you do have recourse through Dept. of Fair Trading/Consumer affairs or what ever it is called now days. But speak to the dealer / LRA first to see if an agreement can be reached which you can both live with. The Consumer Affairs people will usually require this anyway before they get involved though they may give you advice on how to approach LRA first.

EDIT: This may be of some help Consumer Guarantees Guide.pdf

Originally Posted by Slunnie

You're talking about a different vehicle.

Absolutely !

And its the same company, - Land Rover, with the same ideals, quality control (?) business models, warranty, (dis)interest in its Customers.... etc etc.

They need to read their own brochures and advertising...and make sure that the product is 'Fit for Purpose'

Personally, I don't think the later LR's are 'Fit for Purpose', as the demise of another TDV6 over here in WA seems to indicate...

As a parting shot.... the ex-Rover 'tragic' used to get his D2 returned approx every 3 months (on average) with another "problem".... But the KIA has been 100% trouble-free since he bought it over 12 months ago. (2nd hand).
Go figure !

So now we are talking about D2's?

I have had three TD5,D2's,all bought new,never ever had a major failure, or breakdown on the side of the road.The one i have had for the last 7 yrs has been one of the best vehicles i have ever owned.And it doesn't just sit in the carport,two long Cape trips,desert trips,etc,etc.

Maybe they have been serviced correctly.

The first one i had,MY99 did have a few problems,but i found LR to be excellent with warranty repairs,far better than the so called warranty our jap work vans have.The jap dealers are VERY unhelpful if you need warranty repairs and COMPLETELY disinterested in helping out.And we don't have one van,we have a fleet of them.

I would be extremely surprised if LR don't help out with these guys with D3 engine problems.

All types of vehicles will have problems,just look at the problems with the latest Tojo's.......and the 3l nissan granades.....

Lr were always very good on warranty with me even outside warranty period. Cheers

Ps. Could not pay me to drive a Korean car on a daily basis

Scarry, can only agree with you re: servicing. You've been lucky as well I suspect, in picking the better ones... The D2 I've referred to was owned by an Engineer..and regularly serviced at a LR workshop.

- The run you've had is what we should expect as 'normal' for a D2..or any Land Rover.

I would like to believe LRA will cover their co$ts and inconvenience..... Bearing failure is too 'basic' to fob off as 'Production Variations' or Bad Luck or whatever.

Regarding warranty problems on Jap stuff.... can't comment as I've never one with any of my Jap vehicles... Two Crowns, one Magna, and two Mazdas. The Pajero is very much 3rd-hand... But yes, the latest crop of Oriental vehicles are sadly lacking compared to the previous models.

With a whole fleet of (Jap?) vans... I'd have thought you'd be in a strong position to "expect" a high level of service..Or else you'll be trading them in on Korean/German/French/Italian ones, and telling everyone 'why' ...

The only warranty hassles I've had was with Holden. Original dealer was obnoxious... but another -interstate- looked for and fixed warranty items when he serviced it.

Choose your dealer before you choose your car.

Originally Posted by ozscott

Ps. Could not pay me to drive a Korean car on a daily basis

...I don't like cars where the windscreen starts above my toes...and finishes behind me....

But "Boring Reliability" makes up for many things...

Originally Posted by superquag

...I don't like cars where the windscreen starts above my toes...and finishes behind me....

But "Boring Reliability" makes up for many things...

I have that with my other car - 2010 Honda Accord Euro - its got some character which I didnt expect, from the bank vault doors to the aflaesque note to the twin system from that little 200hp straight 4...actualy a really nice vehicle. The reliablity with them is insane. I will happily drive that through to 300-400,000k I reckon with no dramas.

Cheers

We have a 2004 Civic Vti as a kick-about , for town parking etc.
NOTHING ever goes wrong with it . This is why the US and EU are
full of Honda vehicles.