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    Quote Originally Posted by discowhite View Post
    Air flow capacity will inflate a standard tyre in 8minutes (P195/65/R15 to 35PSI)
    wow! thats mighty quick......not....
    ide like to know how a digital compressor works though?

    cheers phil
    We are not talking tyres but suspension - so talking pressure not volume - need to get more than 150psi into the bags.
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    Air Spring pressures rarely exceed 150 psig.

    As below, the air springs tend to operate under 150 psig as they are not much different from the air springs on highway tractor trailer units whose air brake supply systems tend to run at about 120 to 130 psig.

    This is why I think LR should have added a second air tank and reduced the pressure that their compressor runs at; the higher pressure was just to cram more air into a smaller tank volume and not because the air springs required it.

    Spring/damper modules, (the four air springs, one on each corner):
    Type Guided air spring surrounding twin tube damper, (shock absorber).

    Air Spring Normal Operating Pressures:

    Front: 800 to 1000 kPa (8.0 to 10.0 bar) (116.0 to 145.0 lbf/in²)

    Rear: 500 to 800 kPa (5.0 to 8.0 bar) (72.5 to 116.0 lbf/in²)

    Burst pressure: 3500 kPa (35 bar) (507.5 lbf/in²)

    Maximum spring pressure - Full bump at gross vehicle weight, approximately 2700 kPa (27 bar) (391.5 lbf/in²)

    Air compressor:

    Supplied with air drier, electrically switched, pilot operated exhaust valve and double temperature sensors; controlled by ECU. Maximum pressure 1680 kPa (16.8 bar) (243.6 lbf/in²)

    Air reservoir:

    Working pressure 1750 kPa (17.5 bar) (253.75 lbf/in²) Maximum operating pressure 2300 kPa (23 bar) (333.5 lbf/in²)
    Volume 9 litres (0.31 cu.ft)

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    I agree Pete a second tank would be a much better option but for most people it is not an easy one. Finding a suitable pump or pumps that will make the most of the present system with minor plumbing alterations is for most the only realistic option at this stage.

    Maybe a smart operator with an eye on making a profit could look at putting together a second tank kit with the required plumbing that was a relatively easy install?

    I'd seriously look at that option if it was offered at a reasonable price.

    cheers,
    Terry
    Cheers,
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    A couple of brackets that would bolt on.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    I agree Pete a second tank would be a much better option but for most people it is not an easy one. Finding a suitable pump or pumps that will make the most of the present system with minor plumbing alterations is for most the only realistic option at this stage.

    Maybe a smart operator with an eye on making a profit could look at putting together a second tank kit with the required plumbing that was a relatively easy install?

    I'd seriously look at that option if it was offered at a reasonable price. cheers, Terry
    Freight is always the cost problem, but a couple of brackets that would strap/bolt onto the ends of an OEM air tank obtained from a wrecked 3 or Sport would probably cost wise work out pretty good. It could be a practical mod then as only the brackets would be shipped and one could find an air tank locally. I think there are already suitably placed holes or bolts in the right side frame rails that could be used to attach the brackets to.

    The hardest part would then be running a piece of the 6mm nylon air line across the underside of the 3 without the airline melting from the exhaust system heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbyer View Post
    The hardest part would then be running a piece of the 6mm nylon air line across the underside of the 3 without the airline melting from the exhaust system heat.
    Already done that with my air-up system. Poly ones burst easily but nylon ones cope. I put heat shrink over the exposed sections as well. No issues.

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