Thread: 2nd lot of turbos stuffed

MickM.
Have you checked what oil your dealer is using,
sounds stupid but ya never know (would not be the first time)

Cheers Ken

**** me Neil.... I think your skin needs laminating old son.

I made a friendly jibe and your acting like you've got sand in your knickers...

Do as you wish, enjoy your holidays, fly to other lands...

I was only pointing out that the other makes are no better.

But now I've changed my demenour...

Go shove your attitude...

Originally Posted by Neil P

D3 and 4 diesel engine reliability is a lottery . When my D3 petrol
is replaced , I'll change Brand . I'm not buying into the problems
they have , or the parts unavailability/cost . This stuff all costs
too much to tolerate these continual shortcomings . Parts quality
is hopeless , and they want eighty-odd grand upwards . Ha !
Mobile phone range is not the problem ; recovery is .

Neil,

I generally agree with alot of what you say, but can tell you of 2 friends of mine who have purchased Toyota's in Darwin,Which is Toyota territory,and when it comes to getting parts etc for new toyota's, the costs and supply of parts is as bad or similar to L/R.

The friend with a 150 prado he ordered new, white deisel with toyota bars etc. 6mths later he got the call to collect it, and when he turned up it was grey with no bar work etc..The only reason he took it was he didnt want to drive his petrol cruiser no more because of its fuel usage..

He got given a heap of extra's with the car but he is not a happy Toyota man no-more..The other waited 10 days for a windscreen for his 200 series, and has been back twice with oil consumption issues.

I guess its what you are happy with,or not happy with in your case.

Cheers Ean

Originally Posted by Neil P

For those who feel so inclined/upset :

If your purchase/employment is your phallic symbol and anyone
who doesn't like it is perceived by you to have called you a sad short dicked soab
who's bitch isn't happy , then that's your problem. I don't like paying
for unreliability . I fly to interesting places overseas for my holidays;
if you prefer caravans or something else , that's your holiday choice
and good for you.
What someone else buys , is their business , if I can handle that , why
can't some of you ? My next lease is A5 and parks very nicely at the airport , where I begin holidays that interest me. Goodbye.
Period.

Wow

Why bother with an A5 if you're just parking at the airport? Get an old Austin Lancer/Torana/Futura and think how many more Chardonnay's you can buy.

There are plenty of people who tow vans (probably the majority) who have never considered their tow car in terms of phallic symbols - or am I missing something as I approach old age??

Cheers,

Gordon

Originally Posted by roamer

MickM.
Have you checked what oil your dealer is using,
sounds stupid but ya never know (would not be the first time)

Cheers Ken

Quite a co-incidence isn't it - oil burning problems the day after a 48K service where the oil would have likely have been changed. Presumably they don't use D4 oil in all other vehicles so the possibility exists for a mix-up but should therefore have changed the oil again when the vehicle came back with oil burning probems.

Those that don't like LR's cold always choose a Yota.

More info here

http://www.ohwhatalemon.com/

An interesting read about what some call the best.....looks like a large, cumbersome, fuel hungry, heavy, expensive bunch of bolts.

Its a shame this discussion has gone off track and to a certain extent become personal as I thought I had asked a reasonable question of what is better and more reliable.

An A5 doesn't count as an option as it won't tow a over 2.5 ton van anywhere let alone off road.

I didn't take exception to what Neil said, so come on Neil and others how about a decent discussion on what is to many a very important topic. Where all adults and while we at present share a common interest in LR's that doesn't mean we always will, so looking at and discussing real options rationally shouldn't upset any mature individual.

Looking forward to a decent discussion.

cheers,
Terry

PS ...by the way for what it is worth Audi's aint perfect either ... Audi customer service complaints, reviews, ratings and comments

X2 Terry.
I don't get it anyway - you can't get into an A5 for less than $70k, and closer to $80k for the most basic of basic 200 series 'cruisers.
It's just a weird badge (Range Rover confusion?) thing. Ppl used to accuse me of being posh for my (2nd hand) D2, until I told them it cost me $10k less than any Prado with similar age and miles.
The dealer network is a bit of an issue, but I'm convinced the D3/4 is a unique and strong value equation.

Sorry, back to oil...