If it's still under warranty, use whatever oil is specified by LR.
Everyone's bums are covered then.
[edit] Just read that Magna bought out the old New Venture Corp. in 2004.
NV were well known for t/case manufacturing in North America.
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If it's still under warranty, use whatever oil is specified by LR.
Everyone's bums are covered then.
[edit] Just read that Magna bought out the old New Venture Corp. in 2004.
NV were well known for t/case manufacturing in North America.
and I wouldn't use anything but the specced fluid until I know more as the t/case uses a wet clutch LSD.
The fluid may be a as simple as a synthetic UTTO or similar, NV in North America pretty much always used to use ATF's in their t/cases, but this one is built by Steyr in Austria (Magna bought Daimler, Steyr-Puch years ago too) and so what would it's parentage be ?
Anyway, here's a simple spec sheet in a PDF.
Simple spec sheet allright !
Says nothing ,but use the Shell stuff thats unobtainable ,but comes in cute little Landrover plastic bottles. Looks like the stealers win !!
HOw much did the car cost? and people winge about a few bucks for oil seriously how often do you change it, its not like its every week. If you cant afford the oil you cant afford the car.
My 2 cents worth
Cheers
They can stipulate you use a specific oil even if it is available only thru Mazda to maintain warranty, what they can't do is say you must only take the vehicle to them and you must buy the oil from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomisawesome
If you take it for service outside the dealer but inside warranty period, the mechanic is well within his legal right to carry out the work but must adhere to any specific requirements.
Using Capitals, the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse or helping your uncle jack off a horse...
The point is less about the cost of the oil but more about of the lack of alternative suppliers and competition to keep prices reasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Piddler
Garry
This is not just limited to oil. While it does seem like restrictive practices it is the companies investment in the technology. They then sub contract someone to supply to their spec and the formula or part is licensed to be made by said company for the buyer.
It sucks yes, but until patents lapse, that is the way it is and it is only going to get worse. Part of the reason I would not buy a D3 or 4 atm.
Same thing is done by most major companies. Honda do it with bearing. Timken make the bearings, have them sitting on the shelf but can not sell them to you. They seel them to Honda for $17ea and then Honda sell them to me for $140.:o
This is why it is best to buy a global based vehicle with old technology.:p
This is partly why Holden do so well, easy to get cheap parts and consumables.
Holden are doing so well ...are they? ...:wasntme:
cheers,
Terry
and GM did the same with Dexron VI, there were no licensed alternatives for a while.
If demand is there someone will reverse engineer the fluid (or a statute of limitations will run out and Shell will offer it)
[edit] BTW, has anyone bothered ringing Karcraft or BMI ?
They probably bring it in from the UK for substantially less than LRA. I know that a number of Land Rover dealers used to buy their genuine parts from either company rather than pay through the nose from the old PAG.
Perhaps a similar situation to MTF94 where a Mobil technical adviser said that from their analysis Mobil's 424 universal tractor gear/hydraulic oil was at least equal to MTF94 but LR weren't interested in approving any other brand oils. I didn't get to try 424 in my D2s because I already had a 20L drum of MTF94 but recall reading that a LR dealership was using 424 oil because MTF94 wasn't available at the time. 424 oil made a significant improvement in gear changes in my son's Saab but that wasn't surprising as the recommended oil was an engine oil and the gbox was "sealed for life" and without a drain plug.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick130