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    DSC and flat tyres.

    Driving back to Canberra yesterday I was on a secondary road and had to negotiate a tight right hand bend over a small bridge. I was doing less than 50kph and at the apex of the bend the DSC violently kicked in - at no stage prior do the DSC activating did anything feel odd in the car - no sliding, lurching - nothing at all.

    I thought that was odd - initially thought that the weight of the trailer had pushed the car a bit sideways but I had not felt anything and as we were about to stop for lunch I decided to check things then. As I pulled up I remembered that odd DSC activations could be a flat tyre.

    On checking the tyres I found the rear passenger tyre was all but flat.

    The DCS had detected the slight sideways movement (that I could not detect) when I was turning right.

    This was the first time I had to change a tyre in anger and the jack is a real worry - the car farted and it nearly fell off the jack so a better jack will be sought. Also I knew that a door should have been open but forgot about it and all doors were closed so allowing the suspension to adjust.

    The other trick for new players (even though I knew about this) is not to put the jack in the hole in the air compressor cover. I have jacked the car a few times in the drive way and always got the jack in the right hole in the chassis, but for some reason I put it in the hole in the air compressor cover - it actually lifted the car and it was not until there were some cracking noises coming from under the car that I realised something was wrong and moved the jack to the correct position. The pump still pumps the car up but where I have never heard the pump run before it is now quite loud - maybe because the cracking sounds were the cover breaking and letting the sound out.

    So some lessons - if DSC activates unexpectedly, check to see if you have any tyres are going down.

    When you jack, make sure it is in the chassis holes and not the air compressor cover hole (it is the right size)

    Be very suspect of the safety of the jack - make sure a door is open to prevent suspension adjustments (farts).

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    The easy way is to just leave the tailgate open - which you need to open anyway to get the spare & jack.

    M

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    Hopefully you haven't broken the compressor mounting bracket.

    Did you put the vehicle in off-road height before starting to jack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by camel_landy View Post
    The easy way is to just leave the tailgate open - which you need to open anyway to get the spare & jack.

    M
    The doors were closed but the full tailgate was open and it still readjusted itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Hopefully you haven't broken the compressor mounting bracket.

    Did you put the vehicle in off-road height before starting to jack?
    Knowing how much you have to jack the sucker up to get the wheel off the ground I had it in at offroad height and LLAMS at +50 (hey another use for LLAMS). The pump is still working OK so hopefully it is only the outer cover that has cracked - I will check it later this week when I get the tyre repaired.

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    Ha Ha, it crossed my mind that perhaps getting max height might be even better!
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    If it's the rear wheel I know for sure (from experience) that when you jack from under the wishbone going to the tyre, that the wheel will lift it's self off the ground as soon as the jack takes the weight. Don't know if this works with the fronts though, and all doors were closed, car unlocked and key in my pocket. (jacking the car)

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    After a somewhat similar jacking "near miss" (my daughter started jacking the compressor hole) on my old D3, I have painted both the 4 correct holes and the top of the jack red. That way even at night the jack will hopefully go in the correct hole.

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    Front wishbone jacking is really easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by kenl View Post
    If it's the rear wheel I know for sure (from experience) that when you jack from under the wishbone going to the tyre, that the wheel will lift it's self off the ground as soon as the jack takes the weight. Don't know if this works with the fronts though, and all doors were closed, car unlocked and key in my pocket. (jacking the car)
    I regard jacking the rear wishbone as difficult relative to the front. There is a little dimple on the underside of the front wishbone in just the right place for a small bottle jack, (2 ton), to fit. It is like it was planned; the dimple in the underside of the rear wishbone is not so ideally placed but does work OK as well, but it is not as elegant a technique. It kind of sounds like a compressor case should be on both rear sides to jack on.

    My field procedure is one six ton bottle jack or the LR scissor jack placed under the frame near the troublesome tyre and lifted just enough to take some of the vehicle weight. The baby bottle jack is then centered under the dimple of the appropriate wishbone.

    I only lift the rubber about a 1/4" above the road surface - well more as the tyre is low, but such that I hardly have to lift the replacement tyre any amount. The technique is relatively safe as the car is barely lifted.

    Also my experiences seem to suggest that leaving a door or tailgate open does not cancel the auto self levelling program. It seems to have mind of its own and can come into play anytime. About the only thing that truly shuts it down is disconnecting the battery.

    Whether one uses one jack or two, the wishbone lifting procedure has much merit as the car body is not raised very much and hence the vehicle is barely out of level.

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    I just bought the D3 coil 2 stage jack for our D4, that sizzor jack is useless and the car adjusting is a pain, and yes I had the doors open, what I didn't do was set it to offroad height

    If you use the jacking point for the D3 S coil model, it jacks the wheel off the ground no problem

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