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I never said one was better than the other, both are different in how they do what they do and both offer different driving experiences. What I was saying is maybe more people who own D3/4/RRS's needed to try both sides if they had a chance.

As I said at the beginning I love the D3, it is a great bit of gear and believe it or not the D1 isn't the only Disco I like to take off road. I have recently purchased a ARB winch bar for the D3, have had a Llams kit and a set of 17's with STT's fitted for a while and I will be making a number of other purchases of off road gear to make the D3 more practical for both one day and longer off road trips.

Out of the three Disco's we have the one that leaves me uninspired for off road usuage is the D2a. As daft as it sounds it is neither a D1 or a D3 so it has ended up being the everyday driver.

cheers,
Terry

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Originally Posted by TerryO

I never said one was better than the other

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Yes you did - we have it in writing. :D

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Yes you did - we have it in writing. :D

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Bugger! ...I hoped no one would notice ;)


Cheers,
Terry :angel:

Having built a very special RRC with lockers and kept for 13 years, a D1 locked and good rubber, a 100 Series Cruiser, is that my RRS goes places on 20"s with street rubber they couldn't. But, you have to know the car and electronics just like you had to know to lock the centre diff of RRC before you got into trouble, rather than when you were stuck. The electronics are fantastic but am sure to get the most out of the car, given all the combinations, permutations etc really requires knowledge, interest, and input. The looks from the Toyo's/Nissans etc seeing a stock TDV8 RRS on 20"s on their turf doing the same easily will be remembered. Long after issues of battery going dead every few months is laughed away. And the drive home is just awesome.

So Meccles, would you take you RRS everywhere off the beaten track you would take you RRC?

As I said a door or a guard for a D1 is $50 if you need to replace because of damage, the cost of repairing a late model Disco or RRS is horrendous in comparison and most often then not a modded D1 is a weekend toy where as a much newer LR is the daily driver, so most wouldn't risk damaging it to much, this in it self is self limiting.

While there are plenty of very capable D3/4/RRS out there few owners would risk them where a D1/RRC would think nothing of going. Plus a D3/4 has terrible overhang compared to a D1 so again the newer Disco is more susceptable to damage going down larger drop off's etc.

again I'm not saying one is better than the other, rather I am of the opinion you are more likely to go places in a Modded early Disco or RRC that the vast majority wouldn't in a late model LR.

for me half the fun of going off road is going out to chalenging places with other like minded souls in vehicles with similar capabilities, that isn't that hard to find if you have a early Modded LR.

Cheers,
Terry

Horses for courses, but surely the D3/4 is a more flexible allrounder? I'd argue that keeping a dedicated bush-basher is more of a luxury than having one car to do all...

Interesting vid. I was looking to the right rear wheel spinning and could not detect it in any of the runs. It's not hard to forget to lock. I have seen defenders do that sort of slippery climb no probs . It odd but the RRS did well nonetheless. I wonder if .LR wussed up the .TC on the Puma due to some drivetrain weaknesses. My d2 had aggressive ETC in low range BECAUSE it had no CDL so when I retrofitted CDL it made it magic. Mine certainly seems to brake the wheels on full articulation more than the Puma appeared to do in that vid


Cheers

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Originally Posted by Stuart02

Horses for courses, but surely the D3/4 is a more flexible allrounder? I'd argue that keeping a dedicated bush-basher is more of a luxury than having one car to do all...

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Absolutely a D3/4 is a far more flexible all rounder, that's beyond a doubt, but consider this you can buy a heavilly modded D1 or RRC bush basher on average for less than a new colour coded Bull bar, Warn winch, UHF radio and a second set of either 17" or 18" wheels with decent off road tyres for a D3/4.

If you add in the cost of a rear wheel carrier, long range tank, Llams kit, Dual battery kit, Spotties, Rock Sliders and a snorkel then a heavilly modded D1/RRC is looking like a bit of a bargain rather than a luxury.

Plus you have a second vehicle to drive when your 3.0 D4/RRS is in getting its turbo's replaced under warranty. ...;)

Cheers,
Terry

Plus you have a second vehicle to drive when your 3.0 D4/RRS is in getting its turbo's replaced under warranty. ...;)

Cheers,
Terry[/QUOTE]

Haha :)

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Interesting vid. I was looking to the right rear wheel spinning and could not detect it in any of the runs. It's not hard to forget to lock. I have seen defenders do that sort of slippery climb no probs . It odd but the RRS did well nonetheless. I wonder if .LR wussed up the .TC on the Puma due to some drivetrain weaknesses. My d2 had aggressive ETC in low range BECAUSE it had no CDL so when I retrofitted CDL it made it magic. Mine certainly seems to brake the wheels on full articulation more than the Puma appeared to do in that vid

Cheers

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Yeah my D2 with retrofitted CDL was the same - it almost kicked sometimes... That Puma is very tame...