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    Alpine Diesel - how much to fill to prevent waxing issues

    Hi there,

    What is the recomended amount to fill into the tank to prevent wax issues in the diesel. from freezing outside temps?

    Do I fill 25%, 50%, 75% with Alpine Diesel if the capacity of the tank is say 80lt?

    Thanks

    Chris

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    fill as much as you need to get around while in the alpine areas

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCH View Post
    Hi there,

    What is the recomended amount to fill into the tank to prevent wax issues in the diesel. from freezing outside temps?

    Do I fill 25%, 50%, 75% with Alpine Diesel if the capacity of the tank is say 80lt?

    Thanks

    Chris
    Chris, can you explain what waxing is?
    I had a minus 8 morning yesterday and found it extremely hard to start the 300tdi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomalophicon View Post
    Chris, can you explain what waxing is?
    I had a minus 8 morning yesterday and found it extremely hard to start the 300tdi.
    Here is a bit of an explaination:

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_diesel_fuel"]Winter diesel fuel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Regards,

    Chris

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    We just drive from Sydeny and top the tank off at Cooma with alpine diesel before we head up the mountain, car stays at bullocks flat for a week.

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    Not sure if the 3.0 litre is more sensitive to the cold to a 2.7litre but we camped at Howitt Plain in early December and a 2.7 litre D3 started first go in the morning after a very cold night but my 3.0l took half an hour to start using the glow plugs. We both had similar volumes of fuel in our tanks. Neither of us had alpine diesel (didn't think it necessary in December and it is not readily available at that time of the year). There were 4 other diesels from the dark side with us and all of these started OK although one just got going after having to swap from a part full tank to a full tank.
    Cheers

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    I remember seeing a doco about Stalingrad, and the Germans used to light fires under their tanks' tanks before starting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrdef110 View Post
    Not sure if the 3.0 litre is more sensitive to the cold to a 2.7litre but we camped at Howitt Plain in early December and a 2.7 litre D3 started first go in the morning after a very cold night but my 3.0l took half an hour to start using the glow plugs. We both had similar volumes of fuel in our tanks. Neither of us had alpine diesel (didn't think it necessary in December and it is not readily available at that time of the year). There were 4 other diesels from the dark side with us and all of these started OK although one just got going after having to swap from a part full tank to a full tank.
    Cheers
    I would think this purely dependent where they were parked - which were sheltered by huts etc, & which were exposed. It used to be common practice in the bush to park alongside a shed in winter, to keep a cranky diesel out of the prevailing wind overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomalophicon View Post
    I remember seeing a doco about Stalingrad, and the Germans used to light fires under their tanks' tanks before starting them.
    I was in Xian China in a bus that a driver did this to, to get us going again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrdef110 View Post
    Not sure if the 3.0 litre is more sensitive to the cold to a 2.7litre but we camped at Howitt Plain in early December and a 2.7 litre D3 started first go in the morning after a very cold night but my 3.0l took half an hour to start using the glow plugs. We both had similar volumes of fuel in our tanks. Neither of us had alpine diesel (didn't think it necessary in December and it is not readily available at that time of the year). There were 4 other diesels from the dark side with us and all of these started OK although one just got going after having to swap from a part full tank to a full tank.
    Cheers
    There are a few variables in the equation here.
    Was the 3.0 Liter parked facing into the prevailing wind?
    Had the sedimenter been drained of water and gunk before the trip? I find that water freezing in the sedimenter gives the most problems here in Oz.
    I've been doing snow transport for 7 years now and never used Alpine Diesel,just a good clean fuel system is the key I find.

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