Thread: $3500 for a pair of spotties What The ?????

This mob in the US claim to give you a pair of 150 watt H3 globes with these lights. Not sure if it's bull**** or not.

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Deano

Originally Posted by DeanoH

This mob in the US claim to give you a pair of 150 watt H3 globes with these lights. Not sure if it's bull**** or not.

2 150 WATT 4X4 OFF ROAD JEEP DODGE FORD BRONCO TOYOTA FOG LIGHTS DRIVING LAMPS | eBay


Deano

I'm messaging with him now. He's being very cagey...

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Here are the distance and spread diagrams from the Hella catalogue.

I got the 12v x 150 w bulbs from Supercheap at least 5 years ago. No idea of make.

Brian

You are not providing me anything with that drawing... Its a modelled beam pattern.

Another 240mm Lighting product (also Parabolic!!!!) claims 1 lux at 1200 mtrs, in spot mode with similar "pattern"

And they are far from useful as a spot only!!!!

BTW: Add a clear lense cover / filter and they're 83% output....



BTW - No known manufacturers make a 150W (rated - not claimed equiv output) H3 globe that even industry experts I know have ever found / seen.

We're chasing down some leads, but H3 in all known brands top out at 130w

Rang Supercheap - They've never stocked a 150w H3 in their system (nationwide).

Can SOMEONE show me a pic of the base showing this 150w.....?????

Originally Posted by Tombie

I'm messaging with him now. He's being very cagey...

Yeah ! If it's true he's the only vendor in the world selling 150 watt H3's, he's sure to make a fortune.
Doesn't mean to say people aren't selling 130 watters re labelled though.
I haven't checked but 150 watters may be available in different (non H3) bases.

Deano

Originally Posted by DeanoH

Yeah ! If it's true he's the only vendor in the world selling 150 watt H3's, he's sure to make a fortune.
Doesn't mean to say people aren't selling 130 watters re labelled though.
I haven't checked but 150 watters may be available in different (non H3) bases.

Deano

True But still not useful to the punter either!!!!

Whats (pun intended) worse is that people believe that Watts is the measure of light output. Its not, just a measure of power consumption.

So if you have a 150w globe running at 20 lumen/watt then you're pulling a lot of power for little luminance.

Using IR technology you can get a lot more from a filament now.... Were talking serious output...

I also have a Tigerz ??? On my Defender and it is great. I dont know if it would match the duty cycle of a name brand, but man of hose are coming ut of the same chinese factory. It serbed me well, but only in anger about four times in the past 18 months.

If you are one that tries to get stuck and spend more time winching than driving you mght want to make a more serious investment.

I also mounted a pair of HID lights that blind roos at 500 meters, wonderful. Maybe $700

Cheers, tony


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Originally Posted by Tombie

True But still not useful to the punter either!!!!
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At the risk of being a total cynic, does the vendor care ?

I'm sure that if a 150 watt H3 globe was feasible it would be out there. Perception is reality in the real world. The relationship between power and light output is an old one. More is good MUST be better.

It's only relatively recently with LED lighting becoming common that Lumens/Lux vs. watts has become more widely understood.

Deano

Originally Posted by DeanoH

At the risk of being a total cynic, does the vendor care ?

I'm sure that if a 150 watt H3 globe was feasible it would be out there. Perception is reality in the real world. The relationship between power and light output is an old one. More is good MUST be better.

It's only relatively recently with LED lighting becoming common that Lumens/Lux vs. watts has become more widely understood.

Deano

And you're absolutely right again Deano...

Its always been a case of "mine goes to eleven" - Spinal Tap when it comes to this sort of thing.

Interestingly, whats even worse is Lumen ratings... As you may well know they mean nothing in the real world, only the initial output from the emitter.

LED lights and light bars are the absolute worst for this.

Emitter output bears only a cursory influence on useable output.

The Oledone units recently have pretty decent emitter specs, 3w Crees..
But which Cree are they using? What reflector and optics...

When I get the time I will get out my light meter and have a bloody good play