Thread: MY D4 Is Bleeding

I was more asking Just for general interest, and because I like to know what different dealers are doing, I have friends all over Australia, and to answer your question about arnt they all Land Rover trained the answer is no.

Some dealers do not sent ther technicians to get properly trained, I am lucky in that I get trained for my apprenticeship at the Land Rover school in Sydney, others are not so lucky. I can guarantee there are a lot of techs out there who don't know a lot about how the cars actually work, a lot don't care either.

I can guarantee there are a lot of techs out there who don't know a lot about how the cars actually work, a lot don't care either.

You are not wrong there
But your feed back is encouraging

Cheers Ken (whose D4 has been in dealers for 10days still not fixed)

Originally Posted by roamer

You are not wrong there
But your feed back is encouraging

Cheers Ken (whose D4 has been in dealers for 10days still not fixed)

I wouldn't have joined a forum like this if I wasn't interested to learn

There are a lot of blokes on here who know more about these cars than techs do.

A little confused and frustrated by the conflicting input I've recieved on this thread, but in the end my car is fixed and hopefully I'll have no more issues with this turbo.

Outcome...Turbo replaced (with a new, modified unit), even though there aren't supposed to be any in stock...I'm assuming dealers are keeping mum on some or something like that. Dunno, in this case and would hate to think they are BS'ing and fitting old stock.

Modified oil feeder hose fitted, even though that wasn't apparently needed for this engine according to some input on this forum.

Some headscratching at LR today when I talked about replacing a turbo without splitting the car and that being no longer the way.

Their input:

• There is a work around for a feeder hose replacement that they can do in-situ.
• Turbo replacement...body off car!

What scares me about this, is the concern that it's suggested that folks are working on very expensive and complicated machines that shouldn't be and there is not a consistant approach to fixing technical issues, apparent lack of communication between different dealers, etc.

I'm not saying this is true but it's evident from this thread that one hand is not talking to the other.

Cheers,

Kev.

Originally Posted by Celtoid

I'm not saying this is true but it's evident from this thread that one hand is not talking to the other.

Sounds like LRA is working as normal

If your dealer is still splitting bodies to take out secondary turbos then, well I really don't know what to say, we stopped doing that nearly 6 or 7 months ago.

I'm interested in that oil feed pipe. I'll have to look into that further.

Either way, the car is fixed, I hope your issue doesn't persist, good luck!

Originally Posted by LRTech23

If your dealer is still splitting bodies to take out secondary turbos then, well I really don't know what to say, we stopped doing that nearly 6 or 7 months ago.

I'm interested in that oil feed pipe. I'll have to look into that further.

Either way, the car is fixed, I hope your issue doesn't persist, good luck!

Mate, in the industry I work in everything comes at a cost...

Your earlier comment about Warranty Vs Cost being the driver behind the decision to split, starts leaking when it comes to an outcome like this. Is this non-splitting, the industry standard for this situation? Is that what all other LR dealers are being advised to do...or just yours? Wasn't the car designed to be maintained that way, for major requirements?

How do LR dealers get paid for these transactions?

Why would they split the truck unless there was a need, or do they get financial benifit from that outcome?

Why would they have turbos when none exist?

Y would they fit a feeder pipe if there was no need?

I'm also concerned about your earlier comment about the turbos grinding themselves to death....when the exact opposite is true...they get too much oil, too much pressure, they blow the seals.... WT? The oil feeder mod is supposed to reduce oil flow/pressure.

The car is under warranty, I pay for nothing! Are they getting money elsewhere for this activity?....if so, why would any dealer challenge any warranty claim?

I'm sorry if I seem a little peaved about this, but most folks with a $100K outlay are not looking for this 'greyness'. It might be a pain in the ass to me whilst under warranty but it is a huge issue once the car isn't covered as it will be for a lot of folks who own D4s after October this year!

You probably think I'm having a go at you, but I'm not...but can you see it from the owners point of view?

LR in Brissy has a bunch of guys, including some Brits that have worked for LR over the pond. They seem to actually give a **** and know their ****. I understand that they may be constrained by what the company will allow to be known...but in this case, they seem to be the people who are trying to sort stuff out.

Take a $100K out of your own pocket and tell me that I have no reason to be concerned!

Rant over....

How was your day?

Originally Posted by Celtoid

It might be a pain in the ass to me whilst under warranty but it is a huge issue once the car isn't covered as it will be for a lot of folks who own D4s after October this year!

What is happening after October this year?

(and good to hear you have your car back)