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    Llams Vs Rods Vs Nothing

    I trying to work out if Llams or Rods are worth it, as I'm starting to hear stories of them throwing fault codes and confusing the computer system.

    Has anyone had Llams or rods throw faults??

    Is there any pro's and con's of each type ??

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    Where have you heard this? I have had LLAMs fitted and follow its use on here and have not heard of any issues (there were some issues related to assembly that are now fixed) - nor have I had any issues. If there was one anyway, i would simply disconnect it (about 5mins work max) and drive on this the suspension system as standard.

    I don't think you will have any issues (and if you do LLAMs and rods can be disabled)

    Rods - relatively cheap but lack a little flexibility

    LLAMS - certainly not the cheapest but with the height limitations of the car you can do what you want from the drivers seat and on the move.

    No Rods or LLAMS - when offroad at offroad height - excessive compressor use as you go up and down and possible damage to the car if it has dropped and you have not noticed - like ripping off rear bumpers on creek crossings on Fraser when your height has been dropped and you have missed it.

    My preference id LLAMs but if you like them go the Rods - but you will limit your vehicles capability when offroad if you do nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Where have you heard this? I have had LLAMs fitted and follow its use on here and have not heard of any issues (there were some issues related to assembly that are now fixed) - nor have I had any issues. If there was one anyway, i would simply disconnect it (about 5mins work max) and drive on this the suspension system as standard.

    I don't think you will have any issues (and if you do LLAMs and rods can be disabled)

    Rods - relatively cheap but lack a little flexibility

    LLAMS - certainly not the cheapest but with the height limitations of the car you can do what you want from the drivers seat and on the move.

    No Rods or LLAMS - when offroad at offroad height - excessive compressor use as you go up and down and possible damage to the car if it has dropped and you have not noticed - like ripping off rear bumpers on creek crossings on Fraser when your height has been dropped and you have missed it.

    My preference id LLAMs but if you like them go the Rods - but you will limit your vehicles capability when offroad.

    Garry
    Thanks Garry, that's why I asked on here to get the correct info, I had a hunch I was getting fed BS by a third party, I will give the Llams a go !!

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    Can you use faultmate as a way to increase the standard height?

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    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaverD3 View Post
    Yes.
    Thx CaverD3.

    Interesting concept to consider.

    Basics diags device plus LLAMs for suspension control. Equals how much? About $1500?


    Or faultmate mvs2. About $1500? Which does diags, ability to set vehicle in "tight tolerance" mode, plus ride height control, plus what else?

    Which is better?

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    The suspension ecu allows the ride height to be adjusted by a maximum of 25 mm using appropriate diagnostic tools.
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    Faultmate, Autologic or IDD tools.

    Llams is easiest then IDD displayed on info screen. Then others.

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    It is possible to get a "sensor out of range" error when using either LLAMS or the rods and in situations where a wheel is left hanging in the air. It's not a serious condition and a quick restart will clear it. It certainly doesn't detract from the advantage that either system provides to the user.

    Cheers,

    Gordon

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