Thread: Is a Jeep Grand Cherokee really better than a D4?

Originally Posted by Redback

Tell about the WDH it needs Terry

If you get a flat, you have to pull everything out of the back to change it, no load space, no decent aftermarket accessories.

I'd love a 4 door Wrangler Rubicon though, if only they brought the diesel into Australia

Correct, just like a RRS, as I said both vehicles are very similar in size inside and out and while the RRS doesn't have a Bull bar the GC now does. It would seam as these vehicles become more popular accessories are becoming available, unfortunately that is not the case with the RRS.

As far as standard flash gadgets go the Overland leaves the base model $100,000 Rangie for dead just like it does the HSE D4.

I did actually mention the need for a WDH if you tow over 2.25 ton.

I would hazard a guess that 95% of 4wd's never go to far off the beaten track, if at all. The fact that it is very hard to find a new D4 with a e-diff fitted backs that up as dealers keep telling me few buyers even ask about it nor wnt one. I would bet for 95% of punters who now buy new 4wd's they would not care about whether you can fit rear draws or extra wheel carriers etc. nor will they ever need that level of off road accessories.

I am not saying the Jeep is better than a D4, I am saying for the majority of punters out there they present as much better value for money and will do most of the things that the average punter wants from a 4wd vehicle and then some.

The proof is in the pudding, there are a handful of new diesel Overlands for sale right now as they sell as quick as they arrive and the average wait for a new one is three months. From memory I read somewhere that sales of this new model has gone up over 190% from the previous model. As far as a sales success goes the new Jeep Overland is killing the opposition dead.

As I said don't take your wife to see one or you might find yourself driving home in a Jeep!

cheers,
Terry

Going to drive one today, report back later. Would take a lot to get me out of my Disco. Will ask if I can take it to the bush and across the river but assume it will be a NO way

I'd like an SRT8 . Don't think it has low range though.

The Jeeps are very good value for money and the current series are streets ahead of the previous models. The mercedes mechanicals have improved things out of sight. We ended up choosing the rrs over the overland because it was a better overall package if you have passengers but if it was just my wife and I the jeep probably would have gotten the nod. Agree that its annoying that both mercedes and jeep can drop prices on the back of the strong dollar but not lra.
Just my 2 cents
Andrew

In very recent times the American car industry just about ceased to exist...all of it.

Those that survived I suppose have had to pick up their game. Dramatically dropping their prices and lifting equipment levels are probably a few of many things they have done.

A few years ago you couldn't give away an American car. LR have never had that issue with D4 and RRS, so they won't see a need for change.

It will be interesting to see how well the new Jeeps perform, last and hold value. It will be interesting to see if their 'value' hurts LR sales.

Hi Celtoid,

We spend quite a lot of time driving on freeways and as I find it pretty boring I check out 4x4's coming from the other direction just to see what is being driven. From what I have seen recently the number of new model Grand Cheorkee's out there is quite amazing considering they have only been around for about 18 months.

Quite a few are towing new vans as well. After checking them out I can't help but feel these new WK models will have a major impact on D4 sales

cheers,
Terry

Hi Tusker,
Test drove the Mercedes ML350 before buying the RR Sport, not sure that because the Jeep is now part Mercedes necesarily means that it is all OK these days. Must admit that the pricing on the Jeep is attractive though.
Regards
Barryp

Originally Posted by TerryO

Hi Celtoid,

We spend quite a lot of time driving on freeways and as I find it pretty boring I check out 4x4's coming from the other direction just to see what is being driven. From what I have seen recently the number of new model Grand Cheorkee's out there is quite amazing considering they have only been around for about 18 months.

Quite a few are towing new vans as well. After checking them out I can't help but feel these new WK models will have a major impact on D4 sales

cheers,
Terry

I certainly hope so Terry, 'cause I'll be looking at replacing mine in a couple of years and I'd certainly like to pay less....LOL!!!

Right now, all I've read is that LR are putting up the prices....

Cheers,

Kev.