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Thread: Issues Towing large van

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    Tombie Guest
    Nice rig.

    The front bar work and winch will help provide some benefits. Mine got better once the bar/winch were added.

    I tow a very heavy boat trailer combo and its a dream.

    I would think the extra mass up front would return the feel your looking for...

  2. #12
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    Thanks Tombie, we love it. Only van we could find that would fit all the family, even the mother-in-law at times.................

    It was explained to me by my dealer and another that the 2009 build 2.7tdv6 didn't come with trailer stability and apparently the trailer dash light isn't on mine either, can anybody confirm whether their 2.7 has it?

    With your mention of the shocks, I thought the airbags did it all, is there shocks under that as well?

    What bar did you put on? And does it mean the wallow feeling is diminished?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by White D4 View Post
    Thanks Tombie, we love it. Only van we could find that would fit all the family, even the mother-in-law at times.................

    It was explained to me by my dealer and another that the 2009 build 2.7tdv6 didn't come with trailer stability and apparently the trailer dash light isn't on mine either, can anybody confirm whether their 2.7 has it?

    With your mention of the shocks, I thought the airbags did it all, is there shocks under that as well?

    What bar did you put on? And does it mean the wallow feeling is diminished?

    Cheers
    I think you have hit on your issue - all D4s have stability assist (never believe a stealer) and if the trailer light is not coming on I would suggest your D4 is not detecting the van is connected.

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    Would that make that much of a difference or does it change the suspension dynamics and gearing etc that much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    (never believe a stealer) Garry
    Easy bloke. ;-)

    WhiteD4
    YES every D4 has TSA regardless engine config.
    YES the trailer icon should illuminate when connected, do you have LED's ?
    If so you need to have an LED module fitted!
    If not then ask the dealer or someone with a Faultmate to turn it on for you, when it asks choose 12N/12S (12 pin connection-black plug has 7 & white has 5) hopefully this will fix issue.

    The TSA works regardless of a trailer connected, just the oscillation pick up is different.

    HTH
    Cheers

    p.s. I'm not lying I promise :-)

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    Thanks Sniegy

    I take it your in the trade?

    Where would I find a LED module off the shelf?

    Does this change the air suspension setup also?

    Cheers
    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by White D4 View Post
    Thanks Sniegy

    I take it your in the trade?

    Where would I find a LED module off the shelf?

    Does this change the air suspension setup also?

    Cheers
    Paul
    Paul,
    Have worked for a dealer for nearly 14yrs & with LR another 10yrs prior to this job. So Yes :-)
    There are a few around & I have one of these.
    http://www.linearelectronicdesign.com/
    I know the owner of the company & you can order direct from him.
    The unit has nothing to do with the Air Susp.
    You need a Llams kit for that, contact Graeme on here for one of those.

    Cheers

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    If the rear parking sensors are disabled with the van connected then the vehicle knows that the van is attached, even though the instrument trailer indicator does not light. My trailer has incandescent globes that don't light the indicator yet my van's incandescent globes do light the indicator.

    There are shocks inside the air springs and they wear-out like every other shock, sooner if used on rough roads at higher speeds regularly or later if primarily smooth roads at slower speeds. I've just thoroughly worn-out a set of D3 shocks in 60K kms.

    That's quite a long van!

    Edit: Do you have high enough pressure in the rear tyres? Too soft can make the front feel like its wandering.
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  9. #19
    Tombie Guest
    As above.

    - Tyre pressure up in the rear a bit
    - look at new shocks
    - yea the mass of a Winchbar and winch on the front will help distribute the feeling back to the front a noticeable amount.

    On the power front - Bluefin tune the vehicle. Not quite 3.0l performance but much improved.

    A guy here did an exhaust mod which is netting him better towing performance too. He's very pleased with and and not loud.

    So, I'd go the winch bar first (a good idea anyway)

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    Adding a lot more weight will change the dynamics a whole lot.

    I went from a 2300kg Coromal to a 3500kg Lotus.

    I think there are a number of factors at play here.

    You are noticing the extra weight as feedback my guess is your van has Simplicity suspension? It is hard riding and can cause a good deal of feedback.

    I had Simplicity suspension on my van it was dumped for Control Rider independent all the towing sins went away when that was fitted.

    DONT use a WDH.

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