Thread: Recovery gear was useless on my D3

Originally Posted by discotwinturbo

I am with Garry.

Our sand must be much softer over here in WA. Even factory tyres I had to go down to 12psi in spots. With my 285/60-18 on GOE rims, my starting point is 18 psi, but if it looks very soft I will start at 15psi or less depending on how others are going and will go as low as 10 (and have) taking it carefully (that said on some of our bigger dunes I might be doing 60kph on those pressures to get up and over).

Brett.....

Agreed for the soft stuff, but Fraser hard sand beaches are a bit different, was actually considering going up a few pounds!
The hard based and graded tracks are also a lot firmer than big red or Stockton dunes, mainly to cater for all the rental troopies running highway pressures!

Originally Posted by discotwinturbo

I am with Garry.

Our sand must be much softer over here in WA. Even factory tyres I had to go down to 12psi in spots. With my 285/60-18 on GOE rims, my starting point is 18 psi, but if it looks very soft I will start at 15psi or less depending on how others are going and will go as low as 10 (and have) taking it carefully (that said on some of our bigger dunes I might be doing 60kph on those pressures to get up and over).

Brett.....

Yep - been stated on many occasions that the sand is very different over here. Much easier to have problems, especially when it's hot & dry. I've still only got the original road tyres on mine, but run about the same pressures that you do on sand, and have on many occasions gone places where I've driven around other vehicles which have become stuck because they didn't lower their tyre pressures.

Next things on the shopping list for me will be a set of Gordon's rods (there's been a couple of times where I could have used them already) and probably a set of Maxtrax or similar. Haven't had to use the snatch strap with the D4 yet (though I did use it a few times with the D2 - mostly to recover Nissotas) - but the compressor has had a good workout on plenty of occasions.

Getting the spare wheel out from under the rear and fitting the long range tank has helped in sand too. The tank is not as low as the spare wheel was, and I've had at least one occasion in sand where it was dragging it's bum in the sand when the spare wheel was under there.

Pretty sure I've seen yours a couple of times a while back parked on Terrace Road in the city. If not yours, then one very similar (the white bar on the front is what I've noticed most). There's often also a yellow D90 with a large Landrover logo on the doors parked close to the same spot. I'm in Adelaide Tce near the Hyatt - but parked under the building when I'm there.

Originally Posted by garrycol

24 would be way to high in some circumstances - and too high at places like Stockton.

I have run my 18s on my RRS at 10 psi - albiet carefully but worked OK.

Garry

I totally agree Garry, I too have run tyres at 10psi in the dunes at Stockton beach.

As many have said it all depends on where you are.

I said 24 for the highest starting point I'd use in sand, this includes desert sand trips. If the sand was wet from rain I'd probably start at this pressure, each day can be different.

The point I was trying to make re Rohan on Frazer is that too many 4wd's run tyres at too high a pressure on sand and many are reluctant to reduce them. This creates diagionally opposed holes quite often in the softer sections. This is quite apparent at busier times on the French Line & QAA line on the side of a dune with the most traffic.
Vehicles towing camper trailers are quite often the worst culprits.

Originally Posted by BMKal

Pretty sure I've seen yours a couple of times a while back parked on Terrace Road in the city. If not yours, then one very similar (the white bar on the front is what I've noticed most). There's often also a yellow D90 with a large Landrover logo on the doors parked close to the same spot. I'm in Adelaide Tce near the Hyatt - but parked under the building when I'm there.

G'day BMKal,

Not mine. I live in Orange Grove below Lesmurdie. We have about 5 Fuji white D4's in the area, only two with bars, one of which (who is a forum member Heavy Duty) has just had his installed.

I have seen the yellow D90 you have mentioned.

I did get a waive from another Fuji white D4 with a white bar a few days ago around the city.

Brett...

Originally Posted by ~Rich~

The point I was trying to make re Rohan on Frazer is that too many 4wd's run tyres at too high a pressure on sand and many are reluctant to reduce them. This creates diagionally opposed holes quite often in the softer sections.

I agree - Fraser has variable sand conditions and 30psi is too high overall - might be Ok on the main east coast beaches but will rip up the tracks when getting off and on the beaches and if a hot day trying to get through the soft sand at the back of the headland (can't remember if Indian or Waddi) would almost be impossible. Unless you want to be changing tyres pressures all day long it is better to go lower and keep to the speed limits on the main beaches.

I have not had my RRS on Stockton so have not run at 10psi there - been there in other vehicles though - I have run the old 60 aspect ratio wranglers at 10 psi in boggy alpine areas where all was OK but needed to go back up to about 18 in harder rocky areas.

Everyone - including me, obviously has their own views on correct tyre pressures - I tend to run lower tyre pressures compared to others on the highway and leave them at that when I go offroad until the point comes that they do need to go down and then lower them to the minimum expected and leave them there - I hate lowering, then pumping back up time after time.

Garry

Garry

What's the difference between the GOE rods and IIDTool?

Originally Posted by Mattt

What's the difference between the GOE rods and IIDTool?

The GOE rods are a suspension component add on to increase the height. An IIDTool is an electronic diagnostic and configuration tool.

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My 3S has a 2" lift; never had any problems getting stuck!