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Thread: MY13 Discovery 4 Electric Trailer Brake Wiring

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    MY13 Discovery 4 Electric Trailer Brake Wiring

    OK you are probably thinking "not another ETB question" and you'd be right.. BUT I have followed the excellent instructions on this forum and have run into a little trouble.

    Unless I have completely missed something obvious (very possible) then it appears that MY13 wiring is slightly different - only in that the splice joint where the brown wire splits into black and brown is now INSIDE the car cabin where the tow hitch lives. I took off the tail light assembly and followed the black & brown wire all the way back to this point.

    As you can see below I have wired it as per sneigy's instructions (except for location of the splice) and my black wire connects to the blue wire at the Brake Controller and the red wire runs connects to the red wire at the BC.

    The problem
    The Electric/Hydraulic brakes do not work! When the manual over ride button is pressed the trailer bake light come on. When the car brakes are applied, the same brake lights come on! It is like a wire is crossed but I can't work it out.

    If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. I am at a loss!

    I have a P3 EBC fitted..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDavey View Post
    When the manual over ride button is pressed the trailer bake light come on. When the car brakes are applied, the same brake lights come on!
    What are you expecting? This seems correct although it doesn't explain why the trailer brakes don't work.
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    P3 has some diagnostics that may help

    The P3 has a diagnostic mode that can be quite helpful. See link below for what you get when its working. It allows read out of current and voltage just by pressing a few buttons on the P3. The lights you are getting seem OK to me.


    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...ml#post1419157

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    What are you expecting? This seems correct although it doesn't explain why the trailer brakes don't work.
    When the trailer over-ride switch is activated on the Electric Brake Control, the brakes should activate and I would have thought the brake light on the trailer would not? However, maybe the EBC also sends a stop light signal to the trailer regardless if a foot is on the brake when over-ride activated- that would be why there is a stop light cable running to the brake pin! Would make sense.

    Putting a voltage meter on the pin shows only brake light pin working.

    I ran the diagnostics and it all looks OK although I am not sure what output readings I should be getting.

    I'm going to assume I have a bad connection on the blue cable. I'll re-connect and report back.

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    If you are just checking the pins at the rear of the Disco, then the readings will not be correct.
    You need to have as we do a dummy board with loads & you then get correct readings.
    (Have been caught before)
    It all looks correct.
    If you apply the manual lever then yes you will get a brakes to operate at the trailer, you don't use the EBC unless the trailer is connected.

    Cheers

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    Hi All,
    I am new to this forum and have now had my MY13 D4 for just over a month and have been following all threads on trailer wiring with interest. I am a convert from Toyota (4 x Prados) and I have found the descriptions and hints very helpful. I finally got to wire my P3 brake controller in over the easter break and all worked fine initially.
    It seem now though that the trailer brake lights do not operate nor the brake controller as there is 0 volts on the 'red' feed wire from the front.
    I have wired the controller red wire to the trailer red wire with a diode connecting to the red feed wire. This is so that when the manual overide lever is activated on the controller - the brake lights on the trailer (van) will operate but not feed back to the vehicle.
    I have read that others have had similar issues which appear to fix themselves. Can anyone please advise where I should go next or possible causes as at this point I have no trailer brake lights? I have been unable to find any fuses that may possibly be the cause.
    Cheers
    Keith

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    Is the diode in the correct way?

    The Kathode end needs to face the brake controller not the rear of the vehicle.
    Did you connect the red wire from the ETB unit to the red wire at the rear of the vehicle?
    (Also be careful a there are 2 wires, it is the smaller one)

    Let us know.

    Cheers

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    Thanks Pete for the quick reply.
    Yes the diode is correct - I have 0volts at the anode when brake applied so issue is nothing from the front of vehicle.
    Manual overide works fine.
    As I said it worked fine to start and I have LED lights and shunt resistors installed on indicators. All other lights work ok and trailer seen as reversing sensors disabled etc.
    Cheers
    Keith

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    Hi Pete,
    I have attached a photo of the connections and as can be seen from clear heatshrink the diode is correct.
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    I can see the mistake, albeit a simple one to make.

    The diode is in line with the brake circuit(factory wiring), you are basically stopping the signal to the rear lights.

    The diode needs to be inline with the wire you ran.

    I hope this makes sense.

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