Thread: Discreet winch by devon4x4 fitted in Melbourne

I was pretty serious about fitting the discreet winch mount and took the time to actually read the ADR (66 I think it was). It basically says that by law it has to comply with the testing criteria etc of the ADR to be legal. It shouldn't void your warranty, but in a serious accident then you'd need to cross your fingers and hope IMHO.

Only problem is that none of the discreet winch mounts available (apart from the LR genuine one) seem to have ADR compliance (Australian Design Rules). That means that if you're in a smash, basically you've got something fitted that doesn't comply with Australian laws... = no insurance if someone wants to get picky
and
ADR 66 which actually is for —Seat Strength, Seat Anchorage Strength and Padding in Omnibuses.

I hear / see this quoted a lot ADR compliance .
Does anyone know why bull bars are ADR compliant???? .
If you do then you will probably know that discrete winch mounts in most cases probably do not need ADR compliance.

Bring on the flack, I've taken cover....

Same reason as the one I made for my D2 and the tube bar both didn't need compliance or engineering.

Originally Posted by clubagreenie

Same reason as the one I made for my D2 and the tube bar both didn't need compliance or engineering.

For those who don't know me I love bullbars on 4WD's. I am pro bullbars as they have a very legitimate design and purpose one of those being winch attachment device at the very least.
But,
I love the idea of discrete winch attachment especially on a D4 as they look so good as they are. So I am in a real catch 22, get a full bar I can hang bits off or keep the look and go discrete.
ADR has no effect on a real discrete winch mount as the reason for ADR on bullbar is to do with the fact that the tubes obstruct the view of indicators and such, so bullbars have to have those "unnecessary' indicator and parking lights on the front.
Hope this helps clarify for those considering discrete winch bar.
You will however have to consider road worthy requirements for relevant states and territories with regards to winches fitted to the front of a vehicle be it bullbar or discrete...

Originally Posted by herrBlick

Now before we start getting all up tight and defensive I don't want a ARB bullbar as I just don't drive at night ,dusk or dawn plus I love the look of my Discovery as it is,
Does anyone know who could fit such a thing Attachment 57823

It looks awesome. Did you get it from Devon in UK? They seem to be big on anything LR.

Cheers

From my engineer.
As long as any part of it is behind the rearmost point of the "deformable structure and the deformation characteristics of the deformable structure are not altered or compromised" it's fine. In the D2 the deformable structure is defined as the steel backing behind the plastic facade. It also must not prevent the collapse of the deformable device". The deformable device is the crush cans.

I placed it between the rails and behind the shear pins on the cans, which after testing one was just behind the forward most point when collapsed.