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Thread: Discovery 4 jacked up on air suspension reservoir, messed up suspension.

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    Angry Discovery 4 jacked up on air suspension reservoir, messed up suspension.

    Hi everybody,

    I was just wondering what the cylindrical metal object is for under the left side of my 2010 LR4 (see picture). Its only on the left side and extends for as long as the drivers door. (German LR4, left side is driver). Its attached to the chassis but its hollow, looks like a storage tank for something. There is a single about 5mm in diameter cable / hose coming out the rear disappearing to somewhere I cant see.
    There are no stickers on it and doesn't say in the handbook either.

    Incase you need to know its the 3.0 TDV6, HSE, with air suspension
    Anybody know?

    Thanks
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    reservoir for the air suspension
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    reservoir for the air suspension
    thanks for answering.

    i was thinking along the lines of that.
    Here is the problem. I had my tires exchanges earlier and when they lifted the car they placed rubber blocks between the chassis and the lifting machine in order to lift it.
    The front left block was placed under that tank. So 1/4 of the cars weight, probably more, was resting on the tank. They said everything is fine etc, its a part from the chassis they always do it like this (that garage has had my LR4 there a couple times otherwise the closest car the exchanged tires on was a RR sport), i didn't believe that so I started taking pictures like mad.

    That has paid out now as the air suspension is no longer functional.
    After lots of playing with the up and down buttons it now no longer does anything. Its in access height, the screens and indicators show it is in off road height which is what I selected. The system said it needs to cool down after pressing the up button once. I let it cool down for 2 hours. Tried again. Nothing. It managed to get the back suspension up now and then by maybe 1-2cm.
    So they destroyed something the idiots. I told them its not part of the chassis. He was like "oh yeah, its STEEL supposed to be there, no problem at all."

    Also when the wheels where fixed again the car was lowered, front suspension went down to normal level once the wheels touched the floor and the weight of the car forced the suspension to how it always is. However the rear did not go down. It was higher then it is in super extended mode. We drove it out, played with the up and down buttons and it eventually lowered itself.
    Could that be linked aswell?

    1st pic, rear suspension after lowering, front was at normal level (10cm between wheel and wheel cover thing)
    2nd pic, placements of blocks.

    thank you
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    I think you may have dodged a bullet there by taking the photos. They clearly have no idea what they are doing if "they always do it like that".

    It's certainly not an approved jacking point, and certainly not a part of the chassis. Someone who knows much more about the air suspension system than I do will be along to give you an idea of what it could have damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    I think you may have dodged a bullet there by taking the photos. They clearly have no idea what they are doing if "they always do it like that".

    It's certainly not an approved jacking point, and certainly not a part of the chassis. Someone who knows much more about the air suspension system than I do will be along to give you an idea of what it could have damaged.
    Yeah I really have. Lets hope they have good insurance They should technically HAVE to pay for the damages.
    I was suspicious, so i took photos. Started doing that with everything. The state of rental equipment before etc. I was ripped off twice before. Never happening again!

    Exactly, but you know he said its made of STEEL so obviously its all right :P
    "Someone will be along to give you an idea of what it could have damaged." what do you mean by this? Someone will write here? Sorry for not understanding.

    Thank you for your help

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    The first thing to do is grab the manual and find the 'Approved" lift/jacking points. That will give you an idea, and it will state any warnings regarding what can happen using non approved methods. I suspect lifting in that manner may have damaged the height sensors which is what is causing the suspension to malfuction. The control is not recieving any data re heights so it is ignoring.
    Cheers Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_J_Man View Post
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    "Someone will be along to give you an idea of what it could have damaged." what do you mean by this? Someone will write here? Sorry for not understanding.

    Thank you for your help
    Firstly, I would suggest that you request a moderator move this thread to the D3/D4/RRS forum (by clicking on the red triangular on the right hand side of any post), and then some of the members who know the air suspension system inside out will be more likely to see, read and give advice on the potential damage caused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuy1 View Post
    The first thing to do is grab the manual and find the 'Approved" lift/jacking points. That will give you an idea, and it will state any warnings regarding what can happen using non approved methods. I suspect lifting in that manner may have damaged the height sensors which is what is causing the suspension to malfuction. The control is not recieving any data re heights so it is ignoring.
    Cheers Scott
    I have read those several times. Sadly the warnings in there are very basic.

    Interesting thank you. Is that where the sensors are located?
    How can you / anybody explain why the systems overheats very quickely, quicker then usual, and that I cant hear the air being pushed into the suspension. Usually you can hear it, its just dead silent now.
    Also does the rear suspension not lowering after the car was lowered off the lifting equipment mean anything?? normal for the car or a problem?
    Taking the car to the dealer in the next days but I need to tell the shop something, hence why I asked about the tank in the first place.

    Thank you for your help

    btw: I have requested to move this thread.

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    If one part of the garage lift went on the air tank - where did the other lifting arm go - under the air compressor?? If so maybe that is why you have issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    If one part of the garage lift went on the air tank - where did the other lifting arm go - under the air compressor?? If so maybe that is why you have issues.

    Garry
    The air compressor is on the left side in front of the rear wheel correct?
    In the picture I took is does indeed look like it is on the plastic shielding to the left of the chassis at the back left. However I checked all the other spots and they were all on the chassis. Just not sure about the rear left one. I will check under car to see where the marks are the rubber blocks left. The car was very dirty and you can now clearly see where the blocks scraped away the dirt when the car was resting on them. I will check the back left if it may have been fully or partly resting on the plastic and not the chassis.
    The two blocks on the right side were definitely placed correctly, then again the right side only has the chassis where they can be placed under. No other components on that side.
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