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    Help...... possible engine failureTDV6

    While towing small camper to Maleny last weekend detected slight knocking sound which got worse through the day eventualy required towning as vehicle stopped vehicle was serviced 2 weeks prior.
    Vehicle has 80,000k on clock mechanic suspects bearing failure or injector failure possibly causing problem still has to do more tests the computer showed no faults and the temp guage was normal He is talking $15,000 $20,000 to replace motor have owned the vehicle for 2 years with no trouble and has been serviced very 6 months Appreciate any input from people suffering or have suffered similar pain.

    2008 D3 TDV6

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    First thing to do is have an analysis on the engine oil done. Drain some into a clean container and have it done by specialist. You are looking for unusual wear, TBN of the oil and its viscosity. Don't let anyone touch the car until this is done. I have seen a few failures on other websites that had come down to poor engine oil with low TBN, or worse, the wrong viscousity being used, ie 20w50. Not suitable at all for the TDV6.

    You said you are servicing it every six months and the car is at quite low km so I'm guessing it gets done at <10K intervals.

    You should not be having this problem if it is serviced to spec. If the servicing is to spec, I'd definitely be trying to get LRA to come to the table.

    $15-20K is outrageous.

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    In a worst case scenario - engines can be rebuilt rather than replaced.

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    It is pretty hard to rebuild the TDV6 as no parts are available only motors.

    There is a motor in the markets for sale a lot less than a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    It is pretty hard to rebuild the TDV6 as no parts are available only motors.
    Parts are now available in the UK - there is a post about it on the Disco Uk site.

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    What did you have in mind Garry? LR don't sell bottom end parts - is the post you're referring to the one about Federal Mogul selling some parts possibly later in the year?
    http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic93796.html

    I did read on disco3.co.uk of a person having his TDV6 engine rebuilt using a reground crank and main bearings from a different auto maker. I think it was VW or Audi.

    Check through woody32's posts.

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    Surely the costs of rebuilding any modern TDI are not worth it versus purchasing a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich84 View Post
    What did you have in mind Garry? LR don't sell bottom end parts - is the post you're referring to the one about Federal Mogul selling some parts possibly later in the year?
    DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - TDV6 Engine parts - Some Aftermarket availability this year

    I did read on disco3.co.uk of a person having his TDV6 engine rebuilt using a reground crank and main bearings from a different auto maker. I think it was VW or Audi.

    Check through woody32's posts.
    Britpart now have main and big end bearings available. Very expensive, but cheaper than a new short engine. Federal are expecting to have pistons and rings available in August.

    I know the thread you are talking about, and it was a South African guy I think, and he'd found Toyota bearings to fit.

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    Yes that was it - bearings, pistons etc.

    Of course new engines use new parts that have to come from some where and these engines are used in may cars - while a Ford engine - which company in the Ford family actually makes the engines?

    I would have thought that under Aussie law not to provide these parts would be illegal (as they do actually exist) but it would need someone with a bit of funding behind them to force the issue in court.. The same thing happened in the early 80s where you could only buy complete assemblies and a court case then forced car makers to provider the individual parts. Aust Law requires car parts to be available for 10 years but I guess the issue is whether an TDV6 engine is one part or a assembly made up of parts under the laws.

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    Engine Knock.

    Just a thought,
    Did you have the bottom pulley off at the service, cam belt replacement or oil seal for example. Maybe the harmonic balancer is loose causing the knock. I had this problem with a Patrol once. It wasn't tightened to spec by the mechanic who replaced the cam belt and caused a knock that got gradually worse and chewed out the crankshaft nose. We rebuilt it in situ with some careful welding and grinding with a dremmel. If this is the case it wouldn't bring on the fault codes either.
    Worth checking I think.

    Cheers, Nino.

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