D1 v D3

**rb30gtr** · 19th July 2013, 07:41 AM

Love the pics of the two compared like that, awesome trucks both of them. And both with their advantages.

**vogue** · 19th July 2013, 07:54 AM

Nice pair of Disco's you've got.
I have a V8 D1 and love it. Would love a D3/4 but can't afford the maintenance costs

**Redback** · 19th July 2013, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by vogue

Nice pair of Disco's you've got.
I have a V8 D1 and love it. Would love a D3/4 but can't afford the maintenance costs

Our D4 doesn't cost anymore to maintain than our D2 did, service costs are almost the same.

Baz.

**vogue** · 19th July 2013, 08:14 AM

Might be ok for a new vehicle, but there is no way a 8 year old D3 costs the same as a 10 year old D2 to maintain especially when you factor in what can go wrong on a 200,000km

**SBD4** · 19th July 2013, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Tank

If you loaded a large weight onto an independent suspensioned vehicle you could force the centre of the vehicle to touch the ground, the same weight on a live solid axle vehicle would not decrease the ground clearance under the diffs, Regards Frank.

Yes - in the absence of any controls to prevent that from happening - which the D3/D4 has. The inverse of your argument would be, there is no way to increase the diff clearance of live axle vehicle where as you can with an independent suspension vehicle - with relevant controls such as those that the D3/D4 has.

**TerryO** · 19th July 2013, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by vogue

Might be ok for a new vehicle, but there is no way a 8 year old D3 costs the same as a 10 year old D2 to maintain especially when you factor in what can go wrong on a 200,000km

100% agree, the D1 is by far the most affordable to maintain Disco of the lot.

D3's can be and with time will prove to be very expensive to maintain, D2's are not cheap either.

Owning all three at once I know what each one costs to own, to say its a labour of love is an understatement.

My advice to anyone thinking of buying a early D3 would be try and stretch yourself to a new D4, in the long run I bet it works out a much better all round proposition.

By the way I have added a couple more pictures this morning for those who are interested. Once the D3 is lowered to normal height it starts to look like a low rider compared to the D1.

And it's good to see Frank taking so much interest in how good the D3's independent suspension is. ...

**Graeme** · 19th July 2013, 09:37 AM

The 2 together show just how similar in size they are whereas a D3/4 normally looks, to me anyway, to be significantly larger. However the D1 is roughly the same size as my RRC, the wheels of which fitted between some rocks and a fence on my place that I wouldn't even try with the D4.

**VladTepes** · 19th July 2013, 09:53 AM

I'd have the D3 in preference as I can see out the windscreen - I sit too high in the D1 and its really been annoying the crap out of me. The more affordable answer to my problem, of course,is a Defender.

As you were.

**Glynhouse** · 19th July 2013, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Tank

If you loaded a large weight onto an independent suspensioned vehicle you could force the centre of the vehicle to touch the ground, the same weight on a live solid axle vehicle would not decrease the ground clearance under the diffs, Regards Frank.

Correct about the diffs, but a large weight on a live axle vehicle if it had decent travel, would still see the body between the axles touch the ground, so the diff. is ?
Probably be stopped by the bump stops but then the same applies to an independent vehicle.

DD

**Redback** · 19th July 2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by vogue

Might be ok for a new vehicle, but there is no way a 8 year old D3 costs the same as a 10 year old D2 to maintain especially when you factor in what can go wrong on a 200,000km

I was talking comparable Ks of ownership, as the D2 got older, maintenence costs didn't rise that much over the years we owned it(sold it at 320,000ks)and looking at what is happening with the cost of parts now for the D3/4, I think the difference won't be that much and like we did with our D2, England and the USA were a great soarse of cheaper parts, you only have to look at Bi-Xenon light bulbs for the D4 as one example, from $500 each a bulb to as low as $67 a pair for the genuine replacement now, brake shoes and rotors are almost the same price as the D2, all the filters, oils, a new ECU from Land Rover for the D4 is $600, same price as the D2 was/is.

I think as the D4 gets older prices and aftermaket parts will become more available at cheaper prices keeping the cost of maintenence comparable to a point, I mean I'm not saying they will be the same, but they won't be all that different, although a different story if your getting your work done by a Land Rover dealer, but we aren't, so our costs are considerably less.

Baz.

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