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    Sorry rb30gtr I am totally confused now. - your first post implyed it worked but later it doesn't

    Does it work or doesn't it work?

    If it doesn't work what made you think it did in the first place - sorry if it has been explained but am having trouble following

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Sorry rb30gtr I am totally confused now. - your first post implyed it worked but later it doesn't

    Does it work or doesn't it work?

    If it doesn't work what made you think it did in the first place - sorry if it has been explained but am having trouble following

    Thanks

    Garry
    Hi Garry,

    To answer your question, no it didn't work.

    I did a ton of research on disco3.uk and on AULRO, and a few D3 owners made comment of cutting and programming new key's themselves. All misleading information unless I have missed something. Yes just as misleading as this topic! So I do apologise to anyone who gets this when searching, maybe all the other posters started the same and didn't finish by commenting that it cannot be done, by fear of looking a wee bit silly?? I don't mind it's all a learning curve.

    I have a brand new cut Key and useless FOB from the UK via ebay that I am unable to program to suit the car.

    The original key works fine, but FOB randomly failed just after I tried to get the new one programmed to the car. Just my luck.

    I am open to feedback from those that got it to work, what did I do wrong? The faultmate won't match a new key to the car unless it came via VIN order from LR in the UK. So the $40-$60 dollar brand new keys on ebay that you can just order are a waste of money...Apparently..

    Cheers,
    Ben

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    Thanks Ben - I guess one of the issues getting information from forums is that without some previous knowledge, you do not know what is good or poor information.

    As a result of your experiences we now know the answer to this one and I thank you for that.

    Thanks for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Thanks Ben - I guess one of the issues getting information from forums is that without some previous knowledge, you do not know what is good or poor information.

    As a result of your experiences we now know the answer to this one and I thank you for that.

    Thanks for the information.

    Garry
    Not a problem at all Garry, I am always happy to share my experiences.

    Just a shame the way around didn't work, especially now the Disco will be off road for up to 5 weeks because of the little plastic key FOBamajig.

    Cheers,
    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb30gtr View Post
    especially now the Disco will be off road for up to 5 weeks because of the little plastic key FOBamajig.
    Why not just cough up the coin and get one from Davis Performance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rb30gtr View Post
    Hi Garry,

    To answer your question, no it didn't work.

    I did a ton of research on disco3.uk and on AULRO, and a few D3 owners made comment of cutting and programming new key's themselves. All misleading information unless I have missed something. Yes just as misleading as this topic! So I do apologise to anyone who gets this when searching, maybe all the other posters started the same and didn't finish by commenting that it cannot be done, by fear of looking a wee bit silly?? I don't mind it's all a learning curve.

    I have a brand new cut Key and useless FOB from the UK via ebay that I am unable to program to suit the car.

    The original key works fine, but FOB randomly failed just after I tried to get the new one programmed to the car. Just my luck.

    I am open to feedback from those that got it to work, what did I do wrong? The faultmate won't match a new key to the car unless it came via VIN order from LR in the UK. So the $40-$60 dollar brand new keys on ebay that you can just order are a waste of money...Apparently..

    Cheers,
    Ben
    Ben, silly question, but do you know exactly how the attempted recode was done? As far as I'm aware, when you try to code the key to the vehicle using a Faultmate or similar, you have to code all the available keys at the same time, otherwise you effectively replace the existing keys in the vehicle's brain.

    I've read of quite a few people purchasing those same keys with no problems, and I have one myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Why not just cough up the coin and get one from Davis Performance?
    Yep that's who I have ordered through, they have been really helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    Ben, silly question, but do you know exactly how the attempted recode was done? As far as I'm aware, when you try to code the key to the vehicle using a Faultmate or similar, you have to code all the available keys at the same time, otherwise you effectively replace the existing keys in the vehicle's brain.

    I've read of quite a few people purchasing those same keys with no problems, and I have one myself.
    Via a faultmate ... I think it may be achievable via your own Faultmate (SV Version) that is matched to your vehicle rather than the 'multi vehicle MV' or Multi Single Vehicle? MSV service version, there is a bit of chatter about that on the disco3 forum.

    Replacing the original key with the car's memory I had was not my first option as the car came with only one key, previous owner lost one. It was a concern at the time, hence the research into a new key.

    I have even read posts of D3 owners programming the same keys I bought as an extra, or 3rd key.

    I am happy to continue trying with the UK one I bought, just need the one to come via Davis Performance before I can drive the car, and I certainly won't want to replace that key, just add another.

    When I get into Davis Performance for them to match the new key I am getting in via the UK, I will get them to try the other one I have had cut.

    Below exert is from:
    http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/do...tmate_msv2.pdf

    7) Every other type of diagnostic feature or routine that is often unique to particular vehicles systems, such as
    self tests, odometer synchronisation, security immobilisation synchronisation, key fob programming, adaptive
    value resetting, self calibration and so on and on and on

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    Ben, silly question, but do you know exactly how the attempted recode was done? As far as I'm aware, when you try to code the key to the vehicle using a Faultmate or similar, you have to code all the available keys at the same time, otherwise you effectively replace the existing keys in the vehicle's brain.

    I've read of quite a few people purchasing those same keys with no problems, and I have one myself.
    Actually, maybe this is what f'd up the original key I had with the car. Just seemed strange that I thought I was sorted with my own import cut and code of a key and then the original one packed it in, it completely lost its relationship with the car. I took it apart and hard wired a different 3v battery as the lug also ended up broken on the negative of the battery, after the new battery wired up it never worked again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb30gtr View Post
    Actually, maybe this is what f'd up the original key I had with the car. Just seemed strange that I thought I was sorted with my own import cut and code of a key and then the original one packed it in, it completely lost its relationship with the car. I took it apart and hard wired a different 3v battery as the lug also ended up broken on the negative of the battery, after the new battery wired up it never worked again.
    When I read your original post, I thought it a little strange. In terms of functionality, I believe there is no difference between a MV Faultmate versus a SV Faultmate, but I know that the procedure I read for the key coding had to be strictly followed, and all current keys had to be present for it to be successful.

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