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Thread: How Good is the 2.7 V6 Diesel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geodon View Post
    Don't know what's a "H".

    It's a '49 with the 2 spoke steering wheel









    Wow !!! That car is fabulous.... My old man has a small body Legere ... We have it's gearbox in bits at the moment though I'd kill to own a lovely car like yours. I can't see me ever having the money to buy one though.... don't worry though, I have plenty of old cars too tinker with Maybe when the kids grow up and leave home

    A Big 6H ... is the first use of the hydraulic suspension. The rear of the car uses hydraulics like the later DS/ID series of cars.

    Another traction resto

    Here's one here. Sorry I didn't mean to take your thread off topic. I was a bit stunned to see someone had a Big 6. If your ever up ballarat way yell out. I have a fair old junk collection here.

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    My old man has a '75 DS23ie, '52 Traction Avant and 2cv.

    My father will be home in a couple of weeks if you want to chat to him about his Territory diesel too. he off towing a big twin axle van over Australia with it at the moment.

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    Nice thread. I love CX Citroens, beautiful cars.

    Why didn't Ford put that diesel into the Territory from day one? I hired a Territory once and drove from Brisbane to Longreach and back. It was a great car but way too thirsty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesH View Post
    Nice thread. I love CX Citroens, beautiful cars.

    Why didn't Ford put that diesel into the Territory from day one? I hired a Territory once and drove from Brisbane to Longreach and back. It was a great car but way too thirsty.
    Cost ... Plus it's only in recent times Aussies have finally got over there "it's gotta be a V8 or it's gutless crap" type attitude.

    Interestingly there was a caravan magazine that did a write up on towing with the territory diesel when they were released ... and the engine spun a bearing (or something horrible I forget now). I'd say it was a manufacturing flaw in that one engine. Ford must have ***** themselves, no doubt they sent the engine back to the factory to be pulled down and checked, 'cos those things dying was pretty much unheard of. Those motors have been hammered in Land Rovers, Jags and Poogoes/citroens since '05 ( any issues will show up well and trully in 8years!).

    I've been driving Citroen CX's since I was 16years old. Yep, the heat stroke cause by driving them must cause brain damage IMO.... How else can I explain having a yard full of them

    I know plenty about CX's.... The only thing I know about Big 6's is I'd never pick a fight with anyone that drives one. They'd have the chest and arm muscles of Arnie in his prime (yes I admit it, I'm just jealous). Man that Massive 6 cylinder swinging over the front axle looks heavy in them

    seeya,
    Shane L.

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    Ford Aus were trying to put the diesel in the Territory for about 4 years before seppo management would let them.
    I have 235,000 km on my D3 with no problems whatsoever. The only caution on the diesel is that if you only drive it to the shops on Sunday expect issues with the EGR system. It needs to be doing a few Km in a single stint.

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    EGR?

    Tote pls pardon my ignorance!

    The acronym EGR is foreign to me.

    Re heavy steering on Big 6's: Yes! I've bulked up so much I have trouble doing up shoelaces.
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    EGR= Exhaust Gas Recirculation, part of the emission's system.

    A small % of exhaust gas is recirculated back through the intake to reduce NOx levels in the exhaust.

    The increased soot loading may give problems with only short trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Interestingly there was a caravan magazine that did a write up on towing with the territory diesel when they were released ... and the engine spun a bearing (or something horrible I forget now). I'd say it was a manufacturing flaw in that one engine. Ford must have ***** themselves, no doubt they sent the engine back to the factory to be pulled down and checked, 'cos those things dying was pretty much unheard of. Those motors have been hammered in Land Rovers, Jags and Poogoes/citroens since '05 ( any issues will show up well and trully in 8years!).
    The 2.7 spinning bearing shells has fortunately for owners been a low incidence occurance that has also occurred in the 3.0. LR have warned that using wrong oil can lead to this but one wonders if that's really the cause because the shells don't have a tab to stop them from spinning.
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    Re 2.7 diesel longevity

    Have a 2007 2.7 with 270k on it, 95% long distance touring at speed, has never towed, still runs and sounds like Swiss watch.
    New turbo at 170k, fuel heater on top of motor started leaking at 230k, knowageable/honest repairers can change that without taking body off car. (couple of hours labour against <15 hours
    Rear main now showing small leak, so by Christmas will send to workshop to have body lifted off to replace that, torque convertor humming merrily at times, so might have to do that as well same time.
    Have heard unhappy comments on D4 3 litre problems and wonder why there are more "pre owned" D4's for sale than D3's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbrab View Post
    Have heard unhappy comments on D4 3 litre problems and wonder why there are more "pre owned" D4's for sale than D3's.
    D4s have been out for 3+ years so vehicles from owners not wanting a vehicle out of warranty are becoming available. D3s are well out of warranty so those original owners who replace quickly have already done so.

    The 3.0 secondary turbo oil problem has taken quite a while to be resolved. Indeed I have just ordered the updated oil drain parts to fit myself to my 3yo+ vehicle that's out of warranty. It was not fixed by LR earlier mostly because the fix only became standard around the end of mine's warranty and its cheaper for me to buy and fit than travel to the dealer even if LR agreed to fix it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    The 2.7 spinning bearing shells has fortunately for owners been a low incidence occurance that has also occurred in the 3.0. LR have warned that using wrong oil can lead to this but one wonders if that's really the cause because the shells don't have a tab to stop them from spinning.
    Yep. Just had engine replaced by Landrover (goodwill warranty claim) resulting from big end bearing failure. RRS 3.0L with 39k on the clock and just over 3 years old. No questions asked just replaced engine....I was expecting some sort of push back...car had been serviced by Landrover dealers from new and at correct intervals, so I guess there wasn't much they could push back on.

    Dealer was fantastic and had car back on road within a few days of new engine arriving.

    Cheers,
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