Ford territory TDV6

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Originally Posted by Redback

The Territory TDV6 only has 127Kw, don't know if certain things like fuel injection and so on are different.

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I am not sure where you heard that - the Ford Territory page has power and torque exactly the same as the Landrover unit.

Garry

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Originally Posted by Redback

The Territory TDV6 only has 127Kw, don't know if certain things like fuel injection and so on are different.

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140kw and 440nm Baz, don't know where you got your numbers from.

From looking at my brother's Territory, it has a different air intake/intercooler setup and different alternator as well. He said there have been comments about the AWD versions not going well offroad - due to water ingress in their alternator.

Does your brother's have electric steering? If so then the alternator should be higher o/p than the D3's.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

I recall reading that LR reworked some areas of the original version such as the front crankshaft seal and sump to make it better handle off-road use and angles but don't know if Ford Aust used the LR version or not. I had been told that the LR ancilliaries were used to minimise the Territory's R&D costs but don't know how accurate that info is. Ford Aust fitted a fuse in the alternator B+ circuit but that's only wiring.

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Its a Ford engine jointly designed with Peugeot/ Citroen so i doubt it with be the same as modified by LR, more likely to be the same as Jaguar fitted.

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

Its a Ford engine jointly designed with Peugeot/ Citroen so i doubt it with be the same as modified by LR, more likely to be the same as Jaguar fitted.

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If that is the case you would have thought they could do better than having exactly the same hp and torque numbers as the LR unit. I would hazard a guess that there aren't to many differences between either engine, if any, worthy of note.

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Originally Posted by jonesy63

From looking at my brother's Territory, it has a different air intake/intercooler setup and different alternator as well. He said there have been comments about the AWD versions not going well offroad - due to water ingress in their alternator.

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The bigger problem with the Terri is the lack of clearance, the AWD is OK on gravel but you wouldn't take it very far 'off road'.
The diesel also has a fuel cooler which is quite exposed at the RHS of the front bumper, several reports on the Ford Forum of these coolers leaking after a stone impact (road use).

While waiting for the diesel to be launched (I've had a diesel Terri for 2 years now) I heard that the fuel injection was developed locally by Bosch.

Terri also has problems of drive-by-wire lag but it isn't consistent. Claims on forums that it's the torque convertor but it certainly seems to get confused if you approach a junction on a trailing throttle then plant it.
Also occasionally puts out a lot of smoke (no DPF).

I guess anything is possible and there must be motors available in wreckers it would just take someone to sort out the electronics......

Colin

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Originally Posted by garrycol

I am not sure where you heard that - the Ford Territory page has power and torque exactly the same as the Landrover unit.

Garry

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From the add where they tow a trailer full of ice up a hill, they say it has 127Kw.

But I must have miss heard obviously.

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

Its a Ford engine jointly designed with Peugeot/ Citroen so i doubt it with be the same as modified by LR, more likely to be the same as Jaguar fitted.

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LR are the only other company with a single turbo fitted to the 27DT and LR was still owned by Ford during this point in development. It wouldn't make sense for Ford to put further development into the engine when the LR version fit the bill quite well. My bet is Ford Aust just bought the LR version and then just moved a few things around to fit the engine bay of the terri...

My recollection is that the Jaguar version of the 2.7 litre is twin turbo and the LR version one larger turbo. I think that the Terri uses the single turbo version.
Regards
Barryp