4WD Action/Roo Systems acquires a D4... :(

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Originally Posted by Redback

You obviously haven't seen the Land Rover test videos for the D3/4, go have a look at them, the LROC Sydney driver trainer has them.

No Jnr anymore, you 21 now??

Baz.

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I'll have to have a look some day.

I'd pick a D1 before a D3 to race in KOH, I think you'd rip the wheels off anything with stock independant suspension, I haven't managed to trash an axle or CV yet, however I don't flog my car off road. I think a D3 would have a few broken bits if it had been through some of the stuff my D1 and RRC got taken though though. Someone made the comment that you'd break a D3/4 if you drove it like they did in Camel Trophy, I agree with that.

Someone called me junior, which I didn't like... not 21 yet, I am over 18 though :twisted: so I'm an adult :p

Cheers
Will

Most of the vehicles the mag uses have "protection" and appropriate mods for the type of 4wding they do. For their usual Japper vehicles, most of this gear is available readily at ARB and their other usual sources.

Now as we know - with the exception of a few bits and pieces they are not going the good D4 stuff from ARB etc.

To fully equip the D4 are they going to put on 18" rims, underbody protection, rods or LLAMs, emergency inflation kits etc etc etc if it is not available from the usual ARB type sources rather than places like GOE. I suspect not but I am hopeful.

I think while there will be praise for the vehicle, I suspect we will hear the usuals, cannot get decent tyres, complaints about it flopping down at 50kph, let alone the dash indications because of the quirky interlinked computer systems etc. Wait into the suspension has a hissy fit because the stop light has flown - we will be all be hearing about it.

I think that all we can do is watch and read the reports etc and set the record straight and provide advice when appropriate.

Garry

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Originally Posted by MR LR

Someone made the comment that you'd break a D3/4 if you drove it like they did in Camel Trophy, I agree with that.

Someone called me junior, which I didn't like... not 21 yet, I am over 18 though :twisted: so I'm an adult :p

Cheers
Will

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A wise man knows how to tell the difference between fact and opinion.

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Originally Posted by MR LR

I think a D3 would have a few broken bits if it had been through some of the stuff my D1 and RRC got taken though though. Someone made the comment that you'd break a D3/4 if you drove it like they did in Camel Trophy, I agree with that.

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Rubbish

I'll be watching the D4 review in anticipation! I'm confident the D4 will take a flogging and keep going strong, and change a huge amount of opinions along the way.

I am as bogan as bogan comes, and I love my D3, all of my 4x4 mates have completely changed their opinions and quick smart. Especially considering I was keeping up in full standard setup and they are all modified with big tyres.

There is a big following coming up through the 4x4 ranks that are falling in love with the late model Disco's!

I'd rather go out in my Disco and every other driver turn up their noses until they see what it can do, gets conversation going and surprises the hell out of the average Aussie Bogan! Rather than show up in a Pootrol with a 6 inch lift and 37's and do what it is expected to do.

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Originally Posted by gghaggis

Rubbish

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I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be happy in a mud hole up to the bonnet... In fact from a recent thread I read in this very section of the forum, it wouldn't like it at all...! I once got my D1 bogged in this situation, winched it out, checked the oils which were clean and drove it home and re-greased everything :p

I'm sure some smart arse will be along to remind me that I drowned my D1 in 300mm of water (I'm quite sure the engine bay was well and truly full though, as i was being a bit of a ******), however I'll point out that that was user error and mechanical neglect that let the water straight in, it wasn't because 18 computers had a brain fart :twisted:

I think it's foolish to think a modern car could put up with the punishment of an older car (talking stock vehicles here).

And just to make sure it's understood, I'm not talking about perfect scenario capability, I know a D3/4 is more capable offroad, when it's all working properly.

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Originally Posted by MR LR

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be happy in a mud hole up to the bonnet... In fact from a recent thread I read in this very section of the forum, it wouldn't like it at all...! I once got my D1 bogged in this situation, winched it out, checked the oils which were clean and drove it home and re-greased everything :p

I'm sure some smart arse will be along to remind me that I drowned my D1 in 300mm of water (I'm quite sure the engine bay was well and truly full though, as i was being a bit of a ******), however I'll point out that that was user error and mechanical neglect that let the water straight in, it wasn't because 18 computers had a brain fart :twisted:

I think it's foolish to think a modern car could put up with the punishment of an older car (talking stock vehicles here).

And just to make sure it's understood, I'm not talking about perfect scenario capability, I know a D3/4 is more capable offroad, when it's all working properly.

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I had my D3 deeper than that last Saturday. And didn't need a winch to get out.
I think you should probably get a little more personal experience before making such statements.
Happy for you to come along on our next 4x4 trip?

The old car v's new car comparison blows my mind, where do you get that opinion?

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Originally Posted by MR LR

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be happy in a mud hole up to the bonnet... In fact from a recent thread I read in this very section of the forum, it wouldn't like it at all...! I once got my D1 bogged in this situation, winched it out, checked the oils which were clean and drove it home and re-greased everything :p

I'm sure some smart arse will be along to remind me that I drowned my D1 in 300mm of water (I'm quite sure the engine bay was well and truly full though, as i was being a bit of a ******), however I'll point out that that was user error and mechanical neglect that let the water straight in, it wasn't because 18 computers had a brain fart :twisted:

I think it's foolish to think a modern car could put up with the punishment of an older car (talking stock vehicles here).

And just to make sure it's understood, I'm not talking about perfect scenario capability, I know a D3/4 is more capable offroad, when it's all working properly.

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So hang on - you find one instance of a D3 drowning and take that as typical of a D3's ability, but one instance of you drowning a D1 is atypical????

Do a course in rational thinking ...

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Originally Posted by rb30gtr

I had my D3 deeper than that last Saturday. And didn't need a winch to get out.
I think you should probably get a little more personal experience before making such statements.
Happy for you to come along on our next 4x4 trip?

The old car v's new car comparison blows my mind, where do you get that opinion?

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I'd actually be genuinely interested in taking you up on that! :D

I've grown up in family that has a vehicle from every decade for the last 108 years, it's just an observation of the durability of those vehicles, personally I wouldn't own a new Land Rover outside of the warranty period, and if I had to pick 1 in a zombie apocalypse, I'd either take the RRC or series 2a Landy, merely for the offroad capability and field repairability, if I didn't need any offroad capability I'd take the 1909 Scat.

Comparing my old Tdi D1, to my present Td5 D2, I'd class the D1 as more durable, merely due to the lack of electronics and complications, I'd love to see what a D3 costs to keep on the road in 30 or 40 years :eek:

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Originally Posted by gghaggis

So hang on - you find one instance of a D3 drowning and take that as typical of a D3's ability, but one instance of you drowning a D1 is atypical????

Do a course in rational thinking ...

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So different computers of the same make and model will react differently when immersed in water for the period it takes to recover it?

Yeah... I'm the irrational one!

I'm not talking about capability, I'm talking about the ability of a vehicle to take punishment and come back for more.