Thread: Cooper LTZ Zion issues?

Originally Posted by phl

Let's be honest with ourselves here; how many Discos actually go off-road? I'd hazard a guess, and say very few.

Each different tyre means inventory.

The trend now for on-road prestige vehicles is low profile tyres.

Ergo they stock what is commonly sold, and don't bother with what they don't sell in any volume.

So is the Disco an off road vehicle or not?

I am pretty sure it is sold as one,you only have to look at LR advertising.

maybe it is turning into an 'on road prestige vehicle'

LR was always known as a manufacturer of off road vehicles.

Looks like they have moved to a different market,particularly with the Defender being dropped shortly.

And some models of the RRS/RR having no TC.

This will probably also filter down to the Disco as well.

So lets be honest with ourselves,if you want a touring wagon that can also be used off road,well maybe you will have to purchase something else......

Why do you need something else? It's a _choice_ . If you want a transfer case you can have one.

Cheers,

Gordon

Originally Posted by ~Rich~

That's exactly my experience with the 285/60 R18's LTZ's as well!

Seems funny that some can give their tyres a pounding and yet not have any issues. Perhaps there is more to the driving/ load and tyre pressures than we think.

What pressures do you run them at,maybe helpful to others on here.

Those roads around MT Dare,and up through Finke are very bad,corrugations are unbelievable.

I was surprised my 17"s stood up to them,we were heavily loaded.

I'm not looking to do anything hardcore in the way of off road touring but I just want to be able to take the car off road into the outback and handle harsh roads & tracks like the one from Dalhousie to Mt Dare or the GRR and up to Mitchell Plateau etc.

I know the car can do my kind of touring on its ear but it's getting like finding 19' tyres for the job is going to be a lot more difficult than it should be.

Comparing pressures in a 285/60R18 will probably not be any use for people with 19" wheels and even less useful for those with 20" wheels.

Originally Posted by gghaggis

Why do you need something else? It's a _choice_ . If you want a transfer case you can have one.

Cheers,

Gordon

Agreed

Was talking more about low profile tyres,and limited tyre options.




"Comparing pressures in a 285/60R18 will probably not be any use for people with 19" wheels and even less useful for those with 20" wheels."

Many on here run 18"s,so the info i am sure would be helpful(for the people that run 18's).

Originally Posted by jonesy63

Comparing pressures in a 285/60R18 will probably not be any use for people with 19" wheels and even less useful for those with 20" wheels.

This is quite true, on that section from Dalhousie to Mt Dare I was running at approx 24psi cold. I'm sure however it would of risen quite substantially during that drive!

What pressure you use is so much a drivers decision which can change day to day depending on road conditions. Yes it also alters with different sidewall aspect ratio's.

Experience plays a big part of this decision.

Originally Posted by scarry

So is the Disco an off road vehicle or not?

I am pretty sure it is sold as one,you only have to look at LR advertising.
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And some models of the RRS/RR having no TC.

This will probably also filter down to the Disco as well.

In LR case, they can demonstrate the FFRR doing difficult tracks in 20" wheels; that's all most buyers want to know. Doesn't matter if it will last very long on those tracks...

As for TC, I know we bang on all day about it, but if there are enough gears, potentially there is no need for a TC. After all, the old vehicles were 4 speeds boxes, which, with TC, gave you 8 speeds at best (if not 7 due to overlap). As it is, the D4 generally starts in 2nd, so it's not inconceivable that we can have a 10 speed, with normal driving starting in 4th or 5th, but can drop down to 1st, which will be equivalent for 1st low. The torque converter also helps when driving off, albeit doesn't help when trying to retard speed.