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Thread: Bi-Xenon Vs Halogen

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    Bi-Xenon Vs Halogen

    Hi All,


    My SE D4, one of the first built (2009) has Bi-Xenon headlights. The MY13 SE that I just bought (not delivered yet), doesn't.


    Is there much performance difference?


    Can it be done and is it worth doing a swap of the headlight systems between cars?


    Cheers,


    Kev.

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    For me, after the elocker, it was the next option to tick.

    The difference between halogen and bixenon, is a world apart.

    Brett....

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    What he said............

    Had the bi-xenon's in the D3 and D4. They are a "must have" in my books.

    I think there's a recent thread here somewhere about the merits of 3rd party upgrade kits.

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    Didn't have them on the my11 but got them on the my14, chalk and cheese really.
    Wouldnt go back

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    They're quick and easy to swap. The CCF setting fitted/not fitted might need to be changed if they misbehave on startup.
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    Graeme

    What do you mean by misbehave.

    I've updated my lights with aftermarket HID's.

    They work well and are a major improvement on the halogens.

    However, the high beams take a couple of seconds to warm up when first turned on.

    Would changing my CCF to reflect HIDs installed have any effect on that?

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    I changed my halogens to aftermarket HIDs a few years back with 4300k lights in the low beams and 5000k in the high beams.

    As mentioned like chalk and cheese but with the aftermarket globes hi beam takes a while to light up which did annoy me. I took them out at Christmas time and replaced them with Narva Intense 4200k Blue halogens. Well they are crap - they are certainly not 4200K and have a definite yellow tinge (they are more like 3500K. They look like normal halogens with a blue tinted bulb - they highlight how much better the HIDs are and I am thinking of changing back to HIDs in hi beam.

    So if you are able I would definitley go the OEM Bi - Xenons which are better than HIDs as you get instant light from the Hi Beam HID light and in addition you have the Halogen fill in light.

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    Thanks for the input thus far guys. So it's an overwhelming vote for the Bi-Xenon over the Halogen.

    So I'm not intending an aftermarket upgrade or conversion. I'm talking about swapping the OEM Bi-Xenon Unit/Assembly (whatever is required) from the old D4 to the new D4. I guess I'm trying to establish if all D4s are 'fitted for but not with' .... if you understand the term?

    I was hoping that there would be no wiring loom changes or software requirements, that all the smarts of the Bi-Xenon would be in the headlight assembly itself and that it would be nothing more than disconnect, remove Halogen, fit Bi-Xenon unit from old D4, reconnect .... and Bob's your uncle.

    I don't know what you mean by the CCF settings Graeme? Do you feel that there may be a permanent concern or it can easily be reset to work properly from that time onwards?

    Thanks,

    Kev.

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    Kev I understood what you were getting at - Bi Xenons are just HIDS at the basic level so the comparison between after market HIDs and Halogens is just as relevant between Bi-Xenons and Halgons.

    I think your light housings will just swap - but the ballasts may be more problematic. You will need to find where they are installed - in my HIDs they fitted inside the light housings but for OEM I assume they well be bolted to the body somewhere near the lights. The of course will need to go across but I assume the wiring will be in the new car in about the same spot - these days wiring is common to all spec levels. The reverse will apply to putting the halogens into the old car.

    In both cases lights should automatically work but if not the car may have to go on a test book to have them switched on.

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    HID and BiXenons are the same; the difference in the D4 with CCF is the OEM HID gets a spike at startup to give it instant high intensity. Some guys with halogen, with this setting enabled, have been blowing bulbs as halogens don't like the surge.

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