Disco 4 Aftermarket Xenon Lights installation

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Originally Posted by Epic pooh

Redback, RACQ in one of their info sheets on HID's claim that ADR 13 requires HID fitted vehicles to have a light leveling system and headlamp washers to reduce the risk of 'dazzling' other drivers; they state that on this basis most HID conversions are non-ADR compliantn (no leveling or no washers or both). A random look at other sources seem to confirm that point of view. That seems not to be the case with EAS equipped Discos, as (from comments here) it appears all have headlamp washers and self leveling systems. I'm no expert, just what I've read, confusing topic/issue really, glad mine had them from the factory ! Cheers, Mick :)

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I just don't get the washer thing .... Unless there is a sensor to detect heat or bug build up (:-)), what difference does it make?

Cheers,

kev.

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Originally Posted by Celtoid

However, LR have designed something in the system, which appears to be enabled by the CCF, to pulse the bulb on it's INITIAL start, not on high beam selection, to bring it to max brightness faster.


Cheers,


Kev.

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My aftermarket HIDs pulse on start just like the OEM Bi-Xenons so in some halogen vehicles the CCF may be enabled already.

Tor - on the original Bi-Xenons, the globe is on all the time as was mentioned and when you switch between hi/low a shutter moves to change the beam. What is the separate Hi beam on the halogen cars is also a Halogen filler beam on the OEM Bi-Xenons.

If you could get a H7 to H4 adapter you could put in aftermarket H4 dual beam HID globes (have a built in shutter) in the Halogen housings and have Bi-Xenon lights just like the OEM fitout.

I don't know why H7 globes are not made the same as the dual function H4 HIDs but it would be great if we could find some.

Garry

The BCU switches power under programming control for low and high beam. Low beam could easily be pulsed by the BCU programming for a few milliseconds when it finds that bi-xenons are specified in the CCF. Maybe I should build a little module to initially pulse the power for my HID fill-in lights so they light-up quickly too.

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Originally Posted by garrycol

My aftermarket HIDs pulse on start just like the OEM Bi-Xenons so in some halogen vehicles the CCF may be enabled already.

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Either that or the ballast circuitry is smarter than some and pulses on startup. A test would be to supply power directly from the battery to see if they start-up quickly or not.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

Either that or the ballast circuitry is smarter than some and pulses on startup. A test would be to supply power directly from the battery to see if they start-up quickly or not.

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Some one with a CRO could find out exactly what is happening on a HSE. Didn't you say you have a CRO or have used a CRO on your vehicle ? ;)

Tor

I have a little hand-held oscilloscope which I could try to see what's happening for the expected very short duration. A son has just got a decent one with lots of memory for recording so that it can then play back in slow motion.

Edit: It might be a little difficult to switch the lights on and see the oscilloscope at a headlight at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

Either that or the ballast circuitry is smarter than some and pulses on startup. A test would be to supply power directly from the battery to see if they start-up quickly or not.

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Maybe - when I had the HIDs in hi beam I could still flash with them because the initial pulse was quite bright and you could do it a couple of times.

Garry

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Originally Posted by Celtoid

I do hope you are taking the **** back about my comment regarding the self-levelling cup holders :-) ... I just found it hilarious that LR list self levelling headlights as a feature when It's achieved by the car .... everything in the car or attached to, by default, is self levelling ... :-)

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The self levelling is very important; we don't want to spill our latte, do we?

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Originally Posted by phl

The self levelling is very important; we don't want to spill our latte, do we?

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What, you and Kev are sharing one? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Graeme

I have a little hand-held oscilloscope which I could try to see what's happening for the expected very short duration. A son has just got a decent one with lots of memory for recording so that it can then play back in slow motion.

Edit: It might be a little difficult to switch the lights on and see the oscilloscope at a headlight at the same time.

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If it has the memory function, just set the trigger & it will start recording on the trigger. You don't have to be be near it. It will take you a few goes, but eventually you will get it. Hint: use your son to help ! He might know how to drive the trigger mechanism.

Tor