Disco 4 Aftermarket Xenon Lights installation

As a D3 owner, I haven't looked, but here are two suggestions:

Here's some of the LR4 (V8, yeah!) service manual Land Rover Workshop Manuals > LR4 (LA) V8-5.0L (2010) > Relays and Modules > Relays and Modules - Accessories and Optional Equipment > Communications Control Module > Component Information > Locations > C2778

and Disco4.co.uk is likely to have some helpful info as well.

Good luck with your learning adventure, I had many of the same questions when I first got mine ... very different vehicle to anything I'd ever had before (even other LR's !).

edit: heres a workshop manual from ebay - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LAND-ROVE...item2ed01e5897

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Originally Posted by Epic pooh

As a D3 owner, I haven't looked, but here are two suggestions:

Here's some of the LR4 (V8, yeah!) service manual Land Rover Workshop Manuals > LR4 (LA) V8-5.0L (2010) > Relays and Modules > Relays and Modules - Accessories and Optional Equipment > Communications Control Module > Component Information > Locations > C2778

and Disco4.co.uk is likely to have some helpful info as well.

Good luck with your learning adventure, I had many of the same questions when I first got mine ... very different vehicle to anything I'd ever had before (even other LR's !).

edit: heres a workshop manual from ebay - Land Rover Discovery LR4 2009 2012 Workshop Service Manual Turbo 4x4 | eBay

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:eek: OOOOHHHHH ! Thank you - You got to love Pooh and his honey pots. :TakeABow:

Haven't found these Gems.

Tor

Workshop and electrical manuals for any specific LR model can be legally downloaded from LR's Topix site after paying a fee. Various fee periods are available ranging from 1 hour to 12 months IIRC, with the 1 day period costing 7 GBP the one I always use. Getting copies from any other source is illegal, may not be for your model or our market and therefore may be incorrect or incomplete. IMO straight from the horse's mouth is best and the only option for me so that LR can't say I stole or used stolen infomation for my Llams product.

While after market HID quality of build is most likely not as good as the ballasts and globe in the OEM Bi-Xenon system both work in a similar manner. As I have indicated above fitting the aftermarket HID system to my Halogen system I had not issues whatsover with the cars systems and Canbus. The power wires that go to the ballast were plugged directly into the OEM halogen power socket, so no cutting required.

Now unless there is something radically different in how an after market ballast works compared to how the OEM ballast works, I suspect that when you install OEM Bi-Xenons into a OEM Halogen car I suspect that in the majority of cases they will work fine and no changes to the CCF will be required.

While there is talk of changes to the CCF being required has any one actually confirmed this from experience?

When I bought the trailer wiring loom to fit to my RRS I was categorically told that it would have to get it turned on at the dealer for the car systems to know when a trailer was fitted - however this was not the case and it worked straight off.

I would say just fit the OEM Bi-Xenons and see how you go - my money is that they will work straight away - though I wouldn't sell your old lights just in case they don't.

Cheers

Garry

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While after market HID quality of build is most likely not as good as the ballasts and globe in the OEM Bi-Xenon system both work in a similar manner. As I have indicated above fitting the aftermarket HID system to my Halogen system I had not issues whatsover with the cars systems and Canbus. The power wires that go to the ballast were plugged directly into the OEM halogen power socket, so no cutting required.

Garry

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Garry, which ones did you use that plugged straight in - Link please....

Regards
Tor

Just bought off ebay a couple of years ago so I don't have any links - cost $60. Later bought another set for high beams but have since pulled them out as they take 6-10 secs to light up and that is too long for me as I like high beam to be available when I need it.

Garry

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While there is talk of changes to the CCF being required has any one actually confirmed this from experience?

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People on Disco3.co.uk have commented that the bi-xenons tend to start-up slowly when cold until enabled in the CCF.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

People on Disco3.co.uk have commented that the bi-xenons tend to start-up slowly when cold until enabled in the CCF.

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That dam CCF keeps pocking its head up - Can you verify if there is such a configuration parameter with your magic box of tricks, Mr Wizard ?

Tor

Below is a copy of part of the CCF as shown by my Faultmate Extreme:

Interior and Exterior Lighting
Headlamp Delay Off 30s 60s 120s 240s
Corner On Light Threshold
Corner Lights Disable Disable Enable
Exterior Lights Reserved Not fitted Fitted
Daytime Running Lights Inactive Active
Scandinavian Daytime Running Lights Disabled Enabled
Canadian Daytime Running Lights Disabled Enabled
Police Lamps Disable Enable
3 Flash Turn Signals Disabled Enabled
Use Reverse Lights for Follow Me Home Disable Enable
Interior Light Flash Confirm Disable Enable
Interior Lights Not Active With Ign in Auxiliary or Off No Yes
Interior Lights on Approach Not fitted Fitted
Interior Lights On with Tail Gate Ajar Disabled Enabled
Interior Lights Off Delay
Cornering Lamps Fitment Not fitted Fitted
Auxiliary Driving Lights Not fitted Fitted
Adaptive Front Lighting System Not fitted Fitted
Xenon Head Lights Not fitted Fitted
North American Specification lights Not fitted Fitted
Static Bending Lights Disabled Enabled
Reduced Swivelling Inactive Active
Front Fog Lights Not fitted Fitted
High Beam Lights Not fitted Fitted
Side Markers Not fitted Fitted
Front Fog Lights Go off with High Beam On Disabled Enabled
Fog Lights Operate with Side Lights Disabled Enabled
Rear Fog Lights off when Trailer Connected Disabled Enabled
Lights On when Windshield Wipers On Disabled Enabled
Auto High Beam System Undefined Not fitted Fitted Undefined
Auto High Beam Sensitivity Menu Undefined Disabled Enabled Undefined
Auto High Beam Calibration Undefined North America, Canada, Mexico UK Europe Rest of world Reserved Reserved Undefined
Ambient lighting zone 1 Not fitted Fitted
Ambient lighting zone 2 Not fitted Fitted
Ambient Lighting zones Undefined Zone 1 Zone 2 Zone 3 Error
Colour options Undefined Option 1 Option 2 Option 3 Option 4 Option 5 Option 6 Option 7 Option 8 Option 9 Option 10 Option 11 Option 12 Option 13 Option 14 Error
Lights are off warning Default Reserved
Cornering Lamp Diagnostic Function Host SJB False True

Edit: The copy didn't do so well, loosing its formatting but you can get the idea.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

People on Disco3.co.uk have commented that the bi-xenons tend to start-up slowly when cold until enabled in the CCF.

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Hi Graeme,


I've just joined that site .... last night actually. So I haven't had a chance to ask the questions/read the info related to what we've been discussing.


Hope you don't mind me short circuiting the process (pun intended ... ;-)) but do the shutters work without a CCF change? I understand that the globes may be slow to warm up but that would not affect high beam, since as far as the globe is concerned, there is no difference. They are always on (when headlights are selected). I'm sure some folks could live with having to wait a few seconds for the low beam to come on properly....assuming we are only talking a few seconds. From that point on, everything should work as normal.


The shutter not operating is a different prospect completely.


Cheers,


Kev.