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    Ok, so if asked nicely (please :-) ) can I have some line by line replies based on the "N1" type coding system from "A-1" to "O3" with typical heights if you have them.. I will put them all together as a PDF and post here for comment..... I will also take some measurements at the weekend based on my setup as comparison...

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Why don't you want to use the lowered setting - certainly not a lot of use offroad but is great for normal every day use - ride is not compromised and easy to get in and out of the car.

    I would reinforce your comment about not fiddling with it - pick your height and leave it there and save your compressor.

    For me - onroad is set at onroad and LLAMS at -20.

    Offroad - set at onroad and LLAMs set at +50 so you have the equivalent of normal offroad height - it stays there except:

    If I come across a very tight bit offroad - I go to offroad with LLAMs still at +50 and this is good enough for most tight tuff - you still have on height to go in the system - the usual auto extended if you get caught up (with LLAMs at +50 you are the equivalent of super extended).

    After the hard stuff is cleared back to onroad and LLAMs +50.

    I find this minimises lift changes and is still OK on suspension and CVs etc. Be aware that the CVs are most vulnerable at high heights when power and lock is required - softly softly is the way to go in this scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobD View Post
    Baz,


    You are very lucky to have such uniform conditions. We often have sand then roads then sand then rocks then get stuck and use RockCrawl to get out etc etc. You turn your engine off for some reason and everything except Llams is reset and so on. I often get caught out.


    Bob
    Bob,

    If I'm doing hard tracks, in most cases, the tracks around this part of the state will have a combination of ruts and rocks and loose sandstone, so I'll use what ever I feel will cover it all, either Rock Crawl or Mud Ruts usually, I probably wouldn't use Llams in these conditions, because when you're driving these tracks the car goes into extended mode quite a bit, especially when it's a combination of steep, sandy, rocky and damp conditions, this might be the only time I'll change between modes, because height selection is not affected, but as I've found, in either mode, it hasn't made any difference that I could tell.

    If I'm just cruising forest tracks or gravel roads, I don't bother with any mode, standard mode is pretty good for only light 4WDriving, I don't pic a mode until the going gets tough, as for sand, I have only driven sand twice, once for 100mtrs at Plomer Point and the other was Big Desert in Victoria, in those cases Sand mode was used of coarse, not into beach driving, in the first case, I just wanted to test out Sand Mode.

    What I'm trying to say, it's more about changing height on a continual basis, tuning Llams on and off with the modes.

    Graeme has pretty much summed it up.

    Baz.
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    So here are some measurements from my D4
    Running 1/2 worn 255x60x18 road tyres.. Inflated 35 psi... Also fitted with full length roof rails
    Measured from ground to top clearance of car and rail.. All figures rounded UP to the nearest centimetre......

    A-1 182cm
    A0 184cm
    A+1 187cm
    A+2 190cm

    N-1 187 cm
    N0 189cm
    N+1 192cm
    N+2 195 cm

    O-1 191cm
    O0 193cm
    O+1 196cm
    O+2 198cm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluepippa View Post

    A-1 182cm
    A0 184cm
    A+1 187cm
    A+2 190cm

    N-1 187 cm
    N0 189cm
    N+1 192cm
    N+2 195 cm

    O-1 191cm
    O0 193cm
    O+1 196cm
    O+2 198cm
    Any chance you could replicate these measurements to the bottom of the air intake please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fizz View Post
    Any chance you could replicate these measurements to the bottom of the air intake please?
    You could measure the distance from the top of the rails and your intake and subtract. Much easier than getting someone to take a heap more measurements...

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    Possibly slightly off topic unless LLAMS is a solution - does the height automatically return from offroad to normal when you switch from lo to hi range and/or change from special programs (rock crawl in my case) to on road? My wife tells me I'm hitting the height button when going for high range. Of course I don't believe her... :$
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fizz View Post
    Any chance you could replicate these measurements to the bottom of the air intake please?
    Hi..
    From the bottom of the air intake to the the top of the rails is 98cm..
    Simply subtract the 98mm from each of the below heights will give you your wading depth.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart02 View Post
    Possibly slightly off topic unless LLAMS is a solution - does the height automatically return from offroad to normal when you switch from lo to hi range and/or change from special programs (rock crawl in my case) to on road? My wife tells me I'm hitting the height button when going for high range. Of course I don't believe her... :$
    Hi.
    LLAMS does not change unless you change it..
    Changing program or increasing speed will not effect LLAMS height.. if LLAMS and car height is used, then yes when you change program or speed, the height will change but again only the car setting not the LLAMS setting.

    Cheers
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    I think the poster is asking, unrelated to LLAMS, if the vehicle lowers when exiting rock crawl by selecting high range, which it does.
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