Hi all, I'm in the market for a drive car and would love to hear your informed advice.
Been looking at the d3 SE MY08 and need a direction on which engine to choose.
Is the td6 a reliable and powerful enough engine? the fuel economy seems much better than the petrol although i've ready some posts suggesting the town cycle is a lot worse than quoted my manufacturer.
I don't understand the ford V6 4.0 petrol... seems it uses the same 15l/ 100km in fuel as the Jag V8 4.4 but only develops 106kw v 220 in the Jag and 360nm torque v 430 in the v8... so why buy it?
I do highway, fire trails and snow and live in a regional area. No heavy towing - any suggestions or experience with these would be appreciated.
Regards, Will
Stornoway Grey '09 D3 TDV6 SE, 2015 TERRITORY Engine at 348k
LLAMS, FYRLYTS, OL D4 Bar
Safari Snorkel, D4 hitch, ARB CKMA12
It depends on how you see yourself using it and if range is an issue.
I get 450 Km's per tank out of my V8 around town/mixed driving but on the open road it'll be up to around 650 Km's if there was ever a petrol station that corresponded with that distance!
There's no real issues with the V8, just need to check a few cooling system joints. I drove a few petrol V6's before finding mine and they were okay, quite torquey low down but didn't really have that top end fizz that the V8 has when you open it up.
I left the diesels alone due to price, the difference in price can pay for an awful lot of fuel and the diesel generally had close to 100k Km's more on them for the same money.
I totally agree with marmoset. Also the sound ... Hahaha ....
Thanks for the advice guys,
I thought after I posted the request that it may spark a bit of rivalry.... I had already decided against the V6 so guess both the V8 and diesel are OK. My last 3 drive cars have been V8's so maybe that answers it for me.... and I do like the sound.
But I wont be put off by a tidy TD6 either.
Will keep looking.... so any suggestions re SE v HSE?
Rob.
Recommend a HSE with logic 7, rear air and xeon headlights with a V8 motor . This gets you excellent head lights, memory leather seats that are very comfy and a 14 speaker sound system the equal of most modern cars. (I like the glass roof too but ymmv on that one). Try for a ediff too but it's not necessary just nice to have.
That sounds the goods Epic, is all that on yours? is there a particular year logic 7 was introduced?
It's so well spec'd it may as well be a V8 RRS... which begs the next question....
Rob.
If your primary issue is purchase cost then the petrol V6 is a perfectly good option, the Petrol V8 is better but a bit more expensive but more power for similar or even better fuel costs. Both will probably be cheaper to buy and have lower servicing costs than the Diesel however if you are doing remote touring the Diesel will give you much longer range and overall better fuel availability, and if you are doing high km's there will come a point where the lower fuel usage will overtake the higher purchase price and higher service cost, but it is a pretty high number of k's where it crosses over.
I just live my TDV6 though and if I could afford it I wouldn't buy anything else.
People keep on saying that diesel service costs are more than petrols and I am not sure I follow this argument.
I have had modern diesels for just over 10 years and at the same time also have petrols - ranging from 12cyl carbs, v8 carbs, v8 injected and 2 cylinder carb.
The diesels require no tuning where the petrols require tuning with spark plug and other bits replaced at regular intervals.
The diesels just require oils and filters and sometime belts as to the petrols (some petrols have belts) but in addition the petrols require plugs etc.
So on balance I would say a petrol is more expensive to service than a diesel though does depend on engine.
Garry
REMLR 243
2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
1977 FC 101
1976 Jaguar XJ12C
1973 Haflinger AP700
1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
1957 Series 1 88"
1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon
Yeah Rob, mine has all that ... the Logic 7 has been available as an option on the HSE since they were introduced (easy way to tell, front doors have two speaker grilles and a tweeter) - the head unit does not support ipod/iphone without an interface, but can play mp3 cd's so I just burn high quality mp3 to cd (lots fit) and load it up (6cds x lots = plenty of music). The glass roof is a matter of taste, LR in their wisdom haven't fitted very good blinds (so on blinding summer days the roof is really bright - my solution a dark bit of cloth above the blind) but it is brilliant in winter etc and brightens up my otherwise black, black and more black interior.
All the motors are good, if you tow heavy loads or tour the TD is best, the V6 has the most accessible torque and is cheapest and the V8 sounds / goes the best. Don't be too put off by anything you read around here as far as the TD reliability goes - they are tough and they are the most common so my sense says they'd have the most reported issues.
A HSE is a more utilitarian RRS = much the same features, more seats, bigger boot and more mud friendly interior layout (all imo). Except for the killer ... no TDV8 in the Disco ... I'm even mildly sad about that.
Garry, I have no idea which would be more expensive to service, but I'd wager plugs are cheaper than belts (v8 has a timing chain). I know that as far as cost of ownership goes, servicing the motor is the least of my concerns (keeping up with the suspension and gearbox and other driveline bits blows anything to do with the motor to oblivion from a cost POV).
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