Thread: Weighed today

I wish that there was a national adoption and recognition of the modification plates, e.g. the blue plates in Qld.

In NSW you have to carry the engineers report in the vehicle, with all the deterioration that entails over years of use.

Not only do you have to carry the certificate in NSW but the RTA actually want to see it and then they mark it down on the rego papers and then you have to carry the rego papers as well. At least that is what the RTA told me about 12 months ago.

Interestingly, a dealer told me yesterday that the new RRS is complied without a GVM and so were the 2014 D4's. I wouldn't have thought that to be true but I don't have either to check.

You might in fact find that there are next to no mods to take the gvm up to where it maxes out the axle rating - they are probably a bit over engineered ?

Originally Posted by TerryO

Not only do you have to carry the certificate in NSW but the RTA actually want to see it and then they mark it down on the rego papers and then you have to carry the rego papers as well. At least that is what the RTA told me about 12 months ago.

And the RMS and Police advise not to carry the Rego papers in the vehicle in case it gets stolen. But as usual with the RMS, if you went to the Registry and went to each of eleven counters you would leave having received at least twelve different opinions.

Curiosity got the better of me and I did a bit of browsing on GVM / GCM / Towing capacity. The following is from statewide4x4.com.au's FAQ's and highlights some vehicle limitations when it comes to true towing capacity. Fortunately the D3/4/sport have a true 3.5 tonne towing capacity, that is GVM + 3.5t = GCM

GVM Upgrade & GCM FAQ's / Have A Question About Your GVM Or GCM?

"How Much Can I Really Tow?
What a lot of vehicle manufacturers will not tell you is that towing up to your maximum towing capability can sometimes (but not always) affect the amount of weight you can carry in your vehicle.

For Example:

Ford PX Ranger: GVM 3,200kg / GCM 6,000kg

Ford advertises that the vehicle has the ability to tow 3.5T which it does, however if you take a closer look at the vehicles specifications you will see that the GCM cannot exceed 6000kg. If you take 3500kg max towing capacity from the GCM that leaves you a maximum allowable vehicle weight of only 2,500kg.

GCM: 6000kg - 3500kg (max towing) = 2,500kg

To be able to tow, 3.5T with the PX Ranger you need to take 700kg out of your maximum allowed GVM figure of 3,200kg. If you then look even further into the vehicle specifications it is even more of an eye-opener. Lets assume that you are still towing the maximum amount of 3.5T with the PX Ranger which we will say is a Dual Cab XLT.

GVM (with max towing): 2,500kg - Vehicle Tare Weight: 2,159kg = 341kg

So you are now left with a payload of 341kg. Lets take out a couple more essential items from that figure.

Payload: 341kg - Tow Ball Down Force Approx: 280kg - Fuel approx 70kg = - 9kg

So on a Ford PX Ranger XLT towing 3.5T with a full tank of fuel and approx 280kg of ball weight you are already over your GCM. Now try to add a driver, additional passengers, any luggage, a fridge, bull bar, winch etc and you will be well over your allowable limit. This makes your vehicle unroadworthy and in the case of an accident you risk voiding your insurance payout. As you can understand it is important information that the consumer really should be made aware of."

I had a customer today with the latest Triton dualcab, bullbar and canopy fitted. the GVM from memory was 2930KG. He tows a camper with around 200kg on the ball. I did the same exercise for him, working backwards. There's a couple kids not having breakfast before the next trip. Very close once you account for everything.

Originally Posted by rufusking

Curiosity got the better of me and I did a bit of browsing on GVM / GCM / Towing capacity. The following is from statewide4x4.com.au's FAQ's and highlights some vehicle limitations when it comes to true towing capacity. Fortunately the D3/4/sport have a true 3.5 tonne towing capacity, that is GVM + 3.5t = GCM

GVM Upgrade & GCM FAQ's / Have A Question About Your GVM Or GCM?

"How Much Can I Really Tow?
What a lot of vehicle manufacturers will not tell you is that towing up to your maximum towing capability can sometimes (but not always) affect the amount of weight you can carry in your vehicle.

For Example:

Ford PX Ranger: GVM 3,200kg / GCM 6,000kg

Ford advertises that the vehicle has the ability to tow 3.5T which it does, however if you take a closer look at the vehicles specifications you will see that the GCM cannot exceed 6000kg. If you take 3500kg max towing capacity from the GCM that leaves you a maximum allowable vehicle weight of only 2,500kg.

GCM: 6000kg - 3500kg (max towing) = 2,500kg

To be able to tow, 3.5T with the PX Ranger you need to take 700kg out of your maximum allowed GVM figure of 3,200kg. If you then look even further into the vehicle specifications it is even more of an eye-opener. Lets assume that you are still towing the maximum amount of 3.5T with the PX Ranger which we will say is a Dual Cab XLT.

GVM (with max towing): 2,500kg - Vehicle Tare Weight: 2,159kg = 341kg

So you are now left with a payload of 341kg. Lets take out a couple more essential items from that figure.

Payload: 341kg - Tow Ball Down Force Approx: 280kg - Fuel approx 70kg = - 9kg

So on a Ford PX Ranger XLT towing 3.5T with a full tank of fuel and approx 280kg of ball weight you are already over your GCM. Now try to add a driver, additional passengers, any luggage, a fridge, bull bar, winch etc and you will be well over your allowable limit. This makes your vehicle unroadworthy and in the case of an accident you risk voiding your insurance payout. As you can understand it is important information that the consumer really should be made aware of."

My Dad went through this exercise after buying a new pajero - see you pajero hello pathfinder